I run several Docker services on EC2 and testing locally before deploying has always been painful. This looks promising for catching config issues before they hit production. Does it support EC2 + RDS together in local mode?
Floci – A free, open-source local AWS emulator
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Re: Floci – A free, open-source local AWS emulator
#32Cloud providers like AWS, GCP, and Azure should offer local emulators for development. This would encourage developers to utilize their services more. I currently work with several AWS serverless stacks that are challenging or even impossible to integration test locally. While Localstack provide a decent solution, it seems like a service that AWS should offer to enhance the developer experience. They’d also be in the…
CloudFlare for their serverless offering did it, and it works decent.
Re: Floci – A free, open-source local AWS emulator
#33I really need to find a way to have appsync local
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
They should... put work into sacrificing revenue?
If you have a local “digital twin” of the service, it makes it much easier to develop against using AI. This would likely drive adoption.
It's even easier for their revenue if you have to provision dev AWS environments for everyone.
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#35is all of this is vibe coded?
Isn’t a “local emulator of cloud services” kind of the perfect project to be vibe coded? Extremely well documented surface to implement, very easy to test automatically and prove it matches the spec, and if you make some things sub optimal performance wise, that is totally fine because by project will not be used in a tight loop anyway - e.g. it will just need to be faster than over the network hop plus the time it takes for the cloud to actually persist things. This can just need to do this in ram and doesn’t need to scale.
So I’m shocked cloud providers haven’t just done this themselves, given how feasible it is with the right harness
Re: Floci – A free, open-source local AWS emulator
#36Cloud providers like AWS, GCP, and Azure should offer local emulators for development. This would encourage developers to utilize their services more. I currently work with several AWS serverless stacks that are challenging or even impossible to integration test locally. While Localstack provide a decent solution, it seems like a service that AWS should offer to enhance the developer experience. They’d also be in the…
They should... put work into sacrificing revenue?
Without the infrastructure behind it to make it make sense, cloud platforms just seem like convoluted ways of storing data and launching applications/VMs to me.
The only functional use of a tool like this to me would be to learn how to use AWS so that I can work for people who want me to use AWS. Would that not be to Amazon's benefit?
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does it matter?
It does to the person who asked the question. Whether their concerns are driven by curiosity, ethics, philosophy, or something else entirely is really immaterial to the question itself.
Not necessarily. Would you respond the same if the previous person said, "Was this built using an IDE" or "What qualifications do you have to write this software"?
Shit code can be written with AI. Good code can also be written with AI. The question was only really asked to confirm biases.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not clear that it would be a net-negative on the revenue. It could encourage more development and adoption and lead to being a net-positive for the revenue.
It's a fair point but iff you neglect that the overwhelming revenue drivers for these services are large corps who are already locked-in. Devx doesn't matter at all once you're there. The myopathy among us "online people" is assuming number of voices here and elsewhere correlate to revenue. It does not.
If it's irrelevant whether or not individual developers are on board, why are Amazon offering a free plan?
Re: Floci – A free, open-source local AWS emulator
#39A few notes about "local AWS" (or "local cloud") based on other comments and my own XP:
- I'm not sure this kind of product is really a foot in the door to create new customers. Someone not willing to create an actual account because they have no money or they just don't want to put their card details is not someone who's going to become a 6 figures per year customer, which is the level to be noticed by those providers.
- The free tier of AWS is actually quite generous. For my own needs I spend less than $10/year total spread around dozens of accounts.
- If one wants to learn AWS, they MUST learn that there are no hard spend limits, and the only way to actually learn it, is to be bitten by it as early as possible. It's better to overspend $5 at the beginning of the journey than to overspend $5k when going to prod.
- The main interest of local cloud is actually to make things easier and iterating faster, because you don't focus on all the security layer. Since everything is local, focus on using the services, period. Meanwhile, if you wanted to rely on actual dev accounts, you need to first make sure that everything is secure. With local cloud you can skip all this. But then, if you decide to go live, you have to fix this security debt and it most often than not break things that "work on my computer".
- Localstack has the actual support of AWS, that's why they have so much features and are able to follow the releases of the services. I doubt this FOSS alternative will have it.
Re: Floci – A free, open-source local AWS emulator
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
It does to the person who asked the question. Whether their concerns are driven by curiosity, ethics, philosophy, or something else entirely is really immaterial to the question itself.
Not necessarily. Would you respond the same if the previous person said, "Was this built using an IDE" or "What qualifications do you have to write this software"? Shit code can be written with AI. Good code can also be written with AI. The question was only really asked to confirm biases.
As someone who has worked in projects with hundreds of seemingly trivial dependencies which still manage to produce a steady stream of security notices, "What qualifications do you have to write this software" seems like an entirely reasonable, far too seldom asked question to me.