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Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by longislandguido »

jasonjmcghee wrote: post #18
longislandguido wrote: post #8

Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. I counted 0 net improvements and countless new bugs. Apple is having their Windows ME moment. It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. It's all about the software they would say. The chickens have come home to roost.

0 improvements is unfair https://github.com/apple/container

Maybe we can go back to a world where we decouple new under-the-hood features from complete UI fuckery.

You shouldn't have to cope with one to get the other.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by jonny_eh »

longislandguido wrote: post #8

Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. I counted 0 net improvements and countless new bugs. Apple is having their Windows ME moment. It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. It's all about the software they would say. The chickens have come home to roost.

> It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses.

> Apple Announces New Mac Sales Record Following MacBook Neo Launch

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by bombcar »

longislandguido wrote: post #8

Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. I counted 0 net improvements and countless new bugs. Apple is having their Windows ME moment. It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. It's all about the software they would say. The chickens have come home to roost.

> Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created.

Someone hasn't been around for very long in the Apple era, not even counting things before NexT took over.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by cbhl »

ibero wrote: post #22
ndr42 wrote: post #6

Cook: "Mac just had its best launch week ever for first-time Mac customers." I don't doubt that it will sell well (I ordered one myself) but I really dislike this kind of marketing. I would like to get some numbers not "best launch on a Tuesday in a year that ends on 6..." Edit: (Apple stopped reporting sales numbers in late 2018)

isn’t what cook is pointing out actually the most important thing? a product created for the strategic purpose of expanding into a new clientele is doing exactly that. that is the win. put another way, if the statement he said was “best launch week ever for Mac customers.” that does not speak to the entire reason for the existence of this product category. in essence, THAT would be the pointless statement.

it doesn't give a sense of how much the Neo moves the needle or grows the pie though. Mac and iPad are each 8% of Apple's business. iPhone is 50%.

for Apple to focus on fixing things in macOS again (as opposed to just backporting stuff from their other lines) Mac would need to grow by a lot.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by bombcar »

ndr42 wrote: post #30
ibero wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

isn’t what cook is pointing out actually the most important thing? a product created for the strategic purpose of expanding into a new clientele is doing exactly that. that is the win. put another way, if the statement he said was “best launch week ever for Mac customers.” that does not speak to the entire reason for the existence of this product category. in essence, THAT would be the pointless statement.

I agree - I just would like to know what a "best launch week ever" means in numbers

Relatively well-founded estimates will start to appear in a month or so. It's unfortunate they don't give exact model breakdowns, but everyone knows that the Mac is a hobby for them.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by dd8601fn »

bigyabai wrote: post #28
tracerbulletx wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about? How is breaking sales records chickens coming home to roost? Does that phrase not mean the consequences of a bad decision are being realized? If anything isn't this story the opposite, and people aren't that bothered by the software regressions you're concerned about?

> and people aren't that bothered by the software regressions you're concerned about? People weren't that mad about the butterfly keyboard or the 16" Macbook Pro that idled near it's junction temp. That doesn't mean they were good products, it means that the majority of Apple customers fail to evaluate the products they're buying based on quality. "Just avoid holding it that way." - Steven Jobs

It’s the customer who is wrong… for being happy with their purchases!

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by amluto »

bombcar wrote: post #33
longislandguido wrote: post #8

Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. I counted 0 net improvements and countless new bugs. Apple is having their Windows ME moment. It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. It's all about the software they would say. The chickens have come home to roost.

> Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. Someone hasn't been around for very long in the Apple era, not even counting things before NexT took over.

Indeed. In the NT 4.0 era, pre-Mac OS X, it was fun to watch Mac fans extoll the virtues of their OS while rebooting multiple times per day :)

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by solatic »

65 wrote: post #2

Maybe PC manufacturers will finally get a wake up call to stop making plastic shitboxes. Maybe Microsoft will get a wake up call too. Though, I kind of doubt it as the incompetence in PC land is comical.

Arguably, only Apple is able to pull this off, due to huge investments in their supply chain and fully ordering out entire factories.

It also comes in the worst political climate for their competitors. Dell, HP, and others announcing large supply chain investment anywhere but the US would be insane. Making that supply chain investment in the US would make a $500 price point impossible.

Microsoft and Intel threw their OEM partners under the bus and they're going to have a very, very difficult time getting out from under it.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by bombcar »

bigyabai wrote: post #21
computomatic wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a company-issued plastic shitbox. It’s $1100 and made by dell.

Case in point, your company could have afforded a Mac but chose otherwise.

The problem has always been no direct "I want a Mac but Windows" laptop - before the switch to the M1 the best way to get a "Mac quality laptop" that ran windows was to put windows on a Mac.

Go to Best Buy or walmart and fondle the Neo and then do the same with the other Windows laptops. Even though they may perform better (nay, even be better), they certainly do not feel like a premium product.

Phones got this right; there are shitty Android phones, but the premium models feel like an iPhone.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by nicoburns »

pants2 wrote: post #23
imeron wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh I think Microsoft got the memo: This is Microsoft’s plan to fix Windows 11 https://www.theverge.com/news/897834/microsoft-windows-11-qu...

Funny how their plan to improve Windows 11 is basically to make it more like Windows 10. Apparently they already brought back "never combine taskbar buttons" which is why I left W11 in the first place, but seems like they have a long way to go. I really can't believe they thought W11 was a good idea. And putting copilot in notepad... Come on now.

Yep, they could literally have done nothing with their Windows 10 codebase and it would fulfil most if not all of their targets.
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