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Re: Grafeo – A fast, lean, embeddable graph database built in Rust

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Serious question: are there any actually good and useful graph databases that people would trust in production at reasonable scale and are available as a vendor or as open source? eg. not Meta's TAO

Yeah: Postgres, etc.

When you actually need to run graph algorithms against your relational data, you export the subset of that data into something like Grafeo (embedded mode is a big plus here) and run your analysis.

Re: Grafeo – A fast, lean, embeddable graph database built in Rust

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think "written by genAI" should be a bigger turnoff than "written in Rust".

alternative opinion: * it is possible to write high quality software using GenAI * not using GenAI could mean project won't be competitive in current landscape

> not using GenAI could mean project won't be competitive in current landscape

why? this is false in my opinion, iterating fast is not a good indicator of quality nor competitiveness

Re: Grafeo – A fast, lean, embeddable graph database built in Rust

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, there's been a literal explosion in the last 3 months of new graph databases coded from scratch, clearly largely LLM assisted. I'm having to keep track of the industry quite a bit to decide what to add support for on https://gdotv.com and frankly these days it's getting tedious.

I'm turning off my brain and using neo4j

Neo4j is pretty nice.

Re: Grafeo – A fast, lean, embeddable graph database built in Rust

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Serious question: are there any actually good and useful graph databases that people would trust in production at reasonable scale and are available as a vendor or as open source? eg. not Meta's TAO

That's a difficult question and I would like to avoid giving a direct answer (because I co-lead a nonprofit benchmarking graph databases) but even knowing what you need for a graph database can be a tricky decision. See my FOSDEM 2025 talk, where I tried to make sense of the field:

https://archive.fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-5...

Re: Grafeo – A fast, lean, embeddable graph database built in Rust

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Does anyone have any experience with this DB? Or context about where it came from? From the commit history it's obvious that this is an AI coded project. It was started a few months ago, 99% of commits are from 1 contributor, and that 1 contributor has some times committed 100,000 lines of code per week. (EDIT: 200,000 lines of code in the first week) I'm not anti-LLM, but I've done enough AI coding to know that one…

Sounds about right for someone who ships fast and iterates. 54 days for a v0 that probably needs refactoring isn't that crazy if the dev has a real DB background. We've all seen open source projects drag on for 3 years without shipping anything, that's not necessarily better

200,000 lines of code on week 1 is not a sign of a quality codebase with careful thought put into it.

> We've all seen open source projects drag on for 3 years without shipping anything, that's not necessarily better

There are more options than “never ship anything” and “use AI to slip 200,000 lines of code into a codebase”

Re: Grafeo – A fast, lean, embeddable graph database built in Rust

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I just spent an hour with Grafeo, trying to also get the associated library grafeo_langchain working with a local Ollama model. Mixed results. I really like the Python Kuzu graph database, still use it even though the developers no longer support it.

Re: Grafeo – A fast, lean, embeddable graph database built in Rust

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think "written by genAI" should be a bigger turnoff than "written in Rust".

alternative opinion: * it is possible to write high quality software using GenAI * not using GenAI could mean project won't be competitive in current landscape

> * it is possible to write high quality software using GenAI

From examine this codebase it doesn’t appear to be written carefully with AI.

It looks like code that was promoted into existence as fast as possible.

Re: Grafeo – A fast, lean, embeddable graph database built in Rust

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Serious question: are there any actually good and useful graph databases that people would trust in production at reasonable scale and are available as a vendor or as open source? eg. not Meta's TAO

What people perceive as "Facebook production graph" is not just TAO. There is an ecosystem around it and I wrote one piece of it.

Full history here: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brief-history-graphs-facebook...

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