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Re: Liberated Systemd

#31
post #20

systemd also stores the real name of the user using this computer in the same user record. Why not remove that as well, as it could uniquely identify the user of the computer? Or the uuid field...

Because this is a reactionary political statement and not a well thought out privacy project

Funny that the supposed “reactionary” statement is the one opposing bills backed by anti-porn activists and the Heritage Foundation.

Re: Liberated Systemd

#32
post #19

Here is the changes: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/71ad73569d9a5e2588...

Wow. Literally right next to the birthday field, which is apparently a gateway to mass surveillance, is physical location, which is apparently not?

Why not just add national ID number then? Surely that won’t be a problem either?

Re: Liberated Systemd

#33
post #7
post #4

The birthdate doesn't actually get sent anywhere, right? Why would adding a field for a birthdate be "mass surveillance" anymore than having fields for email, full name, etc.?

Because it's the first step. “Information, once collected, will be misused.” ― Richard Stallman, How Much Surveillance Can Democracy Withstand?, 2013

I believe collected there refers to actual centralized collection. This does not get sent to anyone, it lives on your computer. Or do you think that having files on your local disk means that they will be misused?

I'm pretty sure most people already have their birthdate somewhere on their computer.

Re: Liberated Systemd

#34
post #21

As i get old i get more and more annoyed and this useless armchair activism. This piece of software is useless and cannot be employed anywhere and it’s essentially a futile exercise in virtue-signalling. The problem is not technical, it’s political. Go and make some actual political activism, don’t shit out useless software.

As I get older I get more and more annoyed reading useless comments like yours.

Re: Liberated Systemd

#35

This project everyone is laughing at actually accomplished what was probably it's only goal. I was alerted to proof of systemd's priorities. I mean I already knew but nothing beats a good solid action when it comes to trying to say it to anyone else.

I'm not sure I'm parsing what you're writing correctly. What?

Re: Liberated Systemd

#36
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that's also for email address, username, right?

I believe Debian doesn't ask for a e-mail address on installation, but the username is obviously necessary if you're going to login. I leave "Users full name" empty and it's fine. The e-mail address also has a use, for important notifications. There are cases where the OS tries to send an email. But as I mentioned, I don't even know where to set it I've never been prompted and if I was I would leave it empty.

> I leave "Users full name" empty and it's fine.

And you're free to not fill out this field aswell. Full name is probably a lot more unique and sensitive than birthdate

Re: Liberated Systemd

#37
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. Literally right next to the birthday field, which is apparently a gateway to mass surveillance, is physical location, which is apparently not?

Why not just add national ID number then? Surely that won’t be a problem either?

If you wanna save it in your user record sure, why not?

Though the main problem would be that there isn't a "national ID number" everywhere in the world, so the format would be near arbitray.

Re: Liberated Systemd

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe Debian doesn't ask for a e-mail address on installation, but the username is obviously necessary if you're going to login. I leave "Users full name" empty and it's fine. The e-mail address also has a use, for important notifications. There are cases where the OS tries to send an email. But as I mentioned, I don't even know where to set it I've never been prompted and if I was I would leave it empty.

> I leave "Users full name" empty and it's fine. And you're free to not fill out this field aswell. Full name is probably a lot more unique and sensitive than birthdate

Maybe, what's your point?

Do you think it's a good idea for operating systems to comply with 1 or 2 exceptionally retarded state laws? The full name is as far as I know never exposed to websites right?

Computers need to stay what they've always been. Chips that we run our programs on. Linux is the last free (as in freedom) option and they will try to take that away too.

Re: Liberated Systemd

#39
post #5

The other day someone commented on this site that in the age of agentic coding "maintaining a fork is really not that serious of and endeavor anymore." and that's probably the case. I'm sure continuously rebasing "revert birthday field" can be fully automated. Then the only thing remaining is convincing a critical mass that development now happens over at `Jeffrey-Sardina/systemd` on GitHub.

IMO, the benefits aren't from getting mass adoption of this fork, but actually the opposite, at least ostensibly, because if it were to become "the" systemd, it would then face scrutiny and potential legal threat. This way, the maintainers can be in compliance, the legislators (who if there are any paying attention) can be superficially satisfied, while people can still avoid the antipattern. It's the "brown paper bag" speech from the Wire, basically

Re: Liberated Systemd

#40

This project everyone is laughing at actually accomplished what was probably it's only goal. I was alerted to proof of systemd's priorities. I mean I already knew but nothing beats a good solid action when it comes to trying to say it to anyone else.

They added an optional date of birth field to a user directory. Are you mad at LDAP for contributing to the surveillance state?

Folks have absolutely lost the plot on this one. These laws are stupid, this implementation is fine. Be mad at your legislators, being mad at some swedish guy won't help you any.

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