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Oregon school cell phone ban: 'Engaged students, joyful teachers'

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Re: Oregon school cell phone ban: 'Engaged students, joyful teachers'

#31

I remember reading somewhere else that there was a psychological benefit for kids as well. Not having the constant pressure to check the device. Just seems like a big win all around.

In our district phones are banned during the day. Most students don't care about their phones, what they care about is FOMO. And so the ban does great to not only reduce distractions but also the cognitive load of constantly wondering what they're missing.

Re: Oregon school cell phone ban: 'Engaged students, joyful teachers'

#32

"decreed by executive order" That's the only bummer here. I do agree with this policy, but no one voted for it. The governor just said "you're going to do this". Yes, yes, I know - people elected the governor. But this sort of policy seems like something that should require legislative approval, not just one person deciding the whole state must do something. For every time something good comes of that kind of behavio…

The legislature (of states and the federal government) routinely passes laws explicitly giving the head of state the power to make decisions like this without passing a law. The most recent one in Oregon about schooling was SB 141.

Re: Oregon school cell phone ban: 'Engaged students, joyful teachers'

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Listening to music can help people focus.

In 2026 the number of people with mp3 players that are not also smart phones is vanishingly small.

If you are interested in standalone digital audio players (DAPs), I just recently bought this:

https://www.fiio.com/echomini

For ~$60 you get a device that can play every type of audio file and has better sound quality than your cellphone + streamer combo.

I've been reading more about Chinese hardware and if you've been sleeping on it there are a lot of great Chinese consumer products that are both extremely high quality + very cheap.

Turns out when you have tens of millions of engineers they pump out banger after banger. Also always hilarious, in an enduring way, finding the factory engineers engaging with consumers on random forums that take their feedback seriously.

Re: Oregon school cell phone ban: 'Engaged students, joyful teachers'

#34
post #21

I'm a little confussd... was there a point they were allowed? I went to school in the late 2000s, and even at that point if a teacher saw you with a cell phone it was immediately confiscated.

Around 2015 or so they became a lot more accepted. From talking to teachers, a surprisingly large amount of the distraction is parents texting kids while they're at school.

Re: Oregon school cell phone ban: 'Engaged students, joyful teachers'

#35
post #13

My understanding is that these are already banned in most schools and the practical difference between enforcing this at a state or national basis is basically nonexistent vs simple local enforcement.

If anything I suspect it helps reduce the adversarial relationship between local schools and their parents. "State law, not our policy, sorry." Sounds childish, but hey, if parenting has taught me anything it is that plenty of people never outgrow childish behavior.

Re: Oregon school cell phone ban: 'Engaged students, joyful teachers'

#36

"decreed by executive order" That's the only bummer here. I do agree with this policy, but no one voted for it. The governor just said "you're going to do this". Yes, yes, I know - people elected the governor. But this sort of policy seems like something that should require legislative approval, not just one person deciding the whole state must do something. For every time something good comes of that kind of behavio…

FTA:

> The kids also weighed in on the debate around the extent of the ban. The two options bandied in Salem were a “bell-to-bell” policy or just inside classrooms. The latter would allow kids to use their phones during passing period and lunch. Several advocated for that change. That mirrored the debate within the Oregon legislature. It ultimately led to a stalemate and the need for Gov. Kotek’s executive ruling.

It sounds like the legislature broadly agreed on the ban, but couldn’t agree on a couple final details. Insofar as an executive is useful, that’s the case for it: calling the shot in the face of several good (or bad!) options but no clear winner.

Re: Oregon school cell phone ban: 'Engaged students, joyful teachers'

#37
post #2

It's crazy to me that cell phones, and especially smart phones, were ever allowed in the classroom during class.

They were not. The rule now is that they have to go into a special bag that cannot be opened while school is in session. Before they could be left in a backpack and snuck out or used between classes.

Re: Oregon school cell phone ban: 'Engaged students, joyful teachers'

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

music players were often essential for my ability to stay focussed on my work and reading.

During class time?

not all classes are 100% lectures. many of my kids classes have 15-30 minutes of "work time". sometimes entire periods are "work periods" when they have a big project or whatever.

Re: Oregon school cell phone ban: 'Engaged students, joyful teachers'

#39
post #13

My understanding is that these are already banned in most schools and the practical difference between enforcing this at a state or national basis is basically nonexistent vs simple local enforcement.

"Banned" is only meaningful if there are consequences for defying the ban. My experience as a high school English teacher in a handful of schools across several states was that admin is, generally, unwilling to implement a hard ban on smartphones because a significant portion of parents would vocally object (to put it mildly).

Pushing the ban to the state level acknowledges the broad inability of district level leadership to self-police these problems.

Re: Oregon school cell phone ban: 'Engaged students, joyful teachers'

#40

My son, who recently graduated high school, went to a school that banned phones but insisted on laptops (providing them for the kids who couldn't afford one). He said it was ridiculous, as none of the kids had any problem using their laptop for anything they would have used the phone, which was mostly texting, scrolling social media, watching videos, and playing games. Even when the school tried to lock down services…

My son is in middle school and it's the same thing. They can't have devices in the classroom, except for the school mandated device that does everything the phone does and more.
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