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Re: A new Bigfoot documentary helps explain our conspiracy-minded era

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Post by lp4v4n »

mkoubaa wrote: post #19
mikert89 wrote: post #18

I used to look down on conspiracy theories, now I think many are actually true, or are mixed with truth. Its really unlikely that a theory circulates widely but has no basis in reality

They're all on a spectrum between flat earth and Epstein didn't off himself, with some clustering at either end

A few years ago, the "tinfoil hat crowd" had this absurd claim that Ghislaine Maxwell was a reddit powermod:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/incoherent-conspiracy-sugges...

The article above is from 2020, and later the FBI itself used the user maxwellhill as evidence in Ghislaine's investigation:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1qsf6y6/reddit_pos...

Re: A new Bigfoot documentary helps explain our conspiracy-minded era

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Post by heavyset_go »

mikert89 wrote: post #18

I used to look down on conspiracy theories, now I think many are actually true, or are mixed with truth. Its really unlikely that a theory circulates widely but has no basis in reality

Popular conspiracy theories are psyops to either discredit people, movements or ideas

The government spent a lot of time and energy pumping up UFO conspiracy theories to hide sightings of classified aircraft, and they're getting pumped up again in the age of developing cheap weaponized drones.

I would not be surprised that the whole human sex trafficking and Qanon related conspiracy theories are also psyops to hide what's actually going on in plain sight. Obviously, Hillary Clinton wasn't trafficking kids in the basement of a pizza parlor, but there is literally a cabal of elite sex trafficking pedophiles that own and run everything, and one of them is the president.

Re: A new Bigfoot documentary helps explain our conspiracy-minded era

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Post by Animats »

There are more conspiracies. Here are some well-verified ones:

- Epstein and way too many important people.

- The big one from the 1970s onward to increase the return on capital by lowering living standards, the "Powell memorandum".[1] That's the founding document of the modern conservative movement.

- Facebook/Meta being behind schemes for age verification.[2]

[1] https://scholarlycommons.law.wlu.edu/powellmemo/

[2] https://techoversight.org/2025/07/29/bloomberg-meta-google-l...

Re: A new Bigfoot documentary helps explain our conspiracy-minded era

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Post by DANmode »

scoot wrote: post #12
garciasn wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? Because plenty of other hoax-based bullshit, like Flat Earth Conspiracy Theorists and those who believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old continue on in their bubbles regardless of how much evidence is provided to the contrary.

I've always assumed that committed conspiracy theorists are just trolls rolling with it (because nobody could be so stupid as to actually believe in the conspiracy's premise). So no amount of evidence is going to "convince" them, because they already know the truth, and don't care. But then perhaps over time, they somehow attracted people who genuinely are that stupid, and uncritically believe? That demographic is ob…

and this is your theory for…all theories?

or just the “obviously stupid” ones?

Re: A new Bigfoot documentary helps explain our conspiracy-minded era

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Post by idiotsecant »

scoot wrote: post #12
garciasn wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? Because plenty of other hoax-based bullshit, like Flat Earth Conspiracy Theorists and those who believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old continue on in their bubbles regardless of how much evidence is provided to the contrary.

I've always assumed that committed conspiracy theorists are just trolls rolling with it (because nobody could be so stupid as to actually believe in the conspiracy's premise). So no amount of evidence is going to "convince" them, because they already know the truth, and don't care. But then perhaps over time, they somehow attracted people who genuinely are that stupid, and uncritically believe? That demographic is ob…

Plenty (most?) of the people you interact with every day primarily form their worldview based on what feels good emotionally. It's not a matter of stupidity, plenty of smart people delude themselves into thinking easily falsifiable things.

We are barely sentient shit slinging apes.

Re: A new Bigfoot documentary helps explain our conspiracy-minded era

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Post by phendrenad2 »

axiolite wrote: post #14

What does bigfoot have to do with conspiracy? Doesn't bigfoot qualify as folklore/urban legend/pseudoscience/hoax/mythology? Is there widespread belief the government is actively covering up its existence for some reason? Nothing in the linked story explained it. Did someone make a whole documentary and couldn't get the most basic info right? Or did the reporter mangle the article write-up?

I'm pretty sure almost everyone who believes in UFOs also believes that bigfoot is some kind of alien. So that's a lot of people.

Re: A new Bigfoot documentary helps explain our conspiracy-minded era

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Post by dylan604 »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #16
adzm wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read the comments on that video to see how many conclude the opposite!

Is the number of people high enough to make them right? For example if one doctor says I have cancer but 100 electricians say I don't I'm cancer free

9 out of 10 experts agree. It's that last one. That one person is just enough for people to latch on. Then, of the 9, 6 of them get tired of yelling at clouds and quit. The 6 get replaced with those that believe the one so that there's not 7. That goes on for long enough, you get people in charge that do away with vaccinations and measles has a come back.

Re: A new Bigfoot documentary helps explain our conspiracy-minded era

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Post by foxglacier »

default-kramer wrote: post #30
vscode-rest wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s no possible evidence against so called “last Thursdayism”, so you are certainly misrepresenting the state of affairs.

What's strange is that many people who believe in a Mature Creation (as I've heard it; "Last Thursdayism" is new to me) will readily accept it as the explanation for ancient starlight but then deny evolution and claim that the fossil record is actually evidence of the biblical flood. Which is an unnecessarily weak position to take when you have already accepted a perfectly unfalsifiable cop-out! The truth is that mos…

Of course. It's not about being reasonable, it's chasing some emotional need that's unrelated to the truthfulness of the belief. But keep alert for the faith-based beliefs you yourself might find yourself defending with flimsy logic too. It's easy to get sucked into the belief that since all the authorities you respect tell you something is true, then it must be, and you don't have to bother much with how valid your justification is because you already believe the conclusion.

A good self-test is asking yourself how you know the Earth isn't flat. Don't do any research, just try to work it out from what you've already observed and think what makes you believe that conclusion.

Re: A new Bigfoot documentary helps explain our conspiracy-minded era

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Post by foxglacier »

scoot wrote: post #12
garciasn wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? Because plenty of other hoax-based bullshit, like Flat Earth Conspiracy Theorists and those who believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old continue on in their bubbles regardless of how much evidence is provided to the contrary.

I've always assumed that committed conspiracy theorists are just trolls rolling with it (because nobody could be so stupid as to actually believe in the conspiracy's premise). So no amount of evidence is going to "convince" them, because they already know the truth, and don't care. But then perhaps over time, they somehow attracted people who genuinely are that stupid, and uncritically believe? That demographic is ob…

Do you think the same way about religious believers? This is a rhetorical question to help you understand why people hold false beliefs. Of course Mohammed wasn't really the messenger of God, but it's a popular false belief for some reason that isn't stupidity or trolling.
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