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Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#31

It's ironic, because the site has all the hallmarks of an LLM generated website.

Oh, I 100% acknowledge the site itself was LLM generated. I'm not a web designer, so I needed a lot of help making a visually appealing site, even if that design language is at this point LLM trope. However, the essay and the guidelines were all human-written!

Credit to you for your candor!

I'm possibly too jaded / cynical already...

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#32

It's ironic, because the site has all the hallmarks of an LLM generated website.

Oh, I 100% acknowledge the site itself was LLM generated. I'm not a web designer, so I needed a lot of help making a visually appealing site, even if that design language is at this point LLM trope. However, the essay and the guidelines were all human-written!

Hits you in the first row of buttons with the classic gen-AI slop "Why It Matters".

So trace* through ninerealmlabs and ahgraber and sure enough:

  I used AI:
  - to help build this website.
  - to help generate examples of sloppypasta
    based on my original guidance
  - to proofread and review the human-written
    copy to provide a critical review
  - to improve my arguments and ensure clarity.
Kudos for being forthright.

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* Turns out clicking "Open Source" bottom right gets there faster!

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I 100% acknowledge the site itself was LLM generated. I'm not a web designer, so I needed a lot of help making a visually appealing site, even if that design language is at this point LLM trope. However, the essay and the guidelines were all human-written!

Hits you in the first row of buttons with the classic gen-AI slop "Why It Matters" . So trace* through ninerealmlabs and ahgraber and sure enough: I used AI: - to help build this website. - to help generate examples of sloppypasta based on my original guidance - to proofread and review the human-written copy to provide a critical review - to improve my arguments and ensure clarity. Kudos for being forthright. --- * T…

I talked myself in circles on that "why it matters" heading but ultimately couldn't come up with a better one. "The problem" has similar ai-slop feel, and "the rant" // "the rules" didn't really evoke the feeling I wanted.

Happy to take suggestions on this!

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#34
post #4

This article's proposal for stopping sloppypasta is to convince the people who does it to stop doing it, but I am more interested on what someone who receives sloppypasta can do. How do I tell my colleagues to stop contributing unverified AI output without creating tension between us? I've never did that so far because I feel like I am either exposing their serious lack of professionalism or, if I wrongly assumed it…

How do I tell my colleagues to stop contributing unverified AI output without creating tension between us? Make them realise they're replacing themselves if they continue down that path. "What value do you have if you're just acting as a pipe to the AI?"

If I tell someone literally "What value do you have if you're just acting as a pipe to the AI?", I'm pretty sure my manager will schedule a quick 1:1 to ask me why I'm telling peers that they have no value.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#35
post #8

I find that I don't have a lot of sympathy for people angry at this type of behavior, even though I share the disdain for someone else's AI output. The people doing this kind of thing are not the kind of people to be reading this manifesto. We've been creating bait content for a long time, and humans have never been given the tools to manage this in any sophisticated fashion. The internet was not a bastion of high qu…

I acknowledge that those likely to copypaste slop aren't likely to find this article themselves, but I built the page to be shared or guide discussions around etiquette like nohello.net or dontasktoask.com. IMO a common understanding of AI etiquette would provide social pressure to halt some of these behaviors. I honestly don't mind someone else's AI as long as I can trust it/them . One problem I have with sloppypast…

Couple of expressions from pre-AI culture: "RTFM", "Google is your friend". These were well-used because they are directed, pithy, abrasive.

(n)amow(?): (not) All my own work ?

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#36
post #8

I find that I don't have a lot of sympathy for people angry at this type of behavior, even though I share the disdain for someone else's AI output. The people doing this kind of thing are not the kind of people to be reading this manifesto. We've been creating bait content for a long time, and humans have never been given the tools to manage this in any sophisticated fashion. The internet was not a bastion of high qu…

I find your comment disingenuous at best.

> The internet was not a bastion of high quality content or discourse pre-AI.

I have read thousands upon thousands of pages of AI-related discourse, watched hundreds of videos since 2022, maybe even a thousand now on it. NEVER at any point in time did people opine for the "high quality" internet of before. They opined for the imperfect HUMAN internet of before. We are now seeing once pristine, curated corners of the internet being infected with sloppypasta.

This is quite a broad brush to paint the internet with. It's like saying The Earth is not a bastion of warzones/peaceful places to live. That is HIGHLY dependent on location.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#37

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what the hell happened with this account? existed since 2014 and had a few real comments. then all of a sudden, slop deluge (extremely ironic given the thread). if this were to be reddit i would understand - high karma accounts have monetary value. but this is hacker news. genuinely confused as to the motivation here. is the original account owner the one posting these comments?

frankly I'm disappointed in the amount of responses this account is getting on its other comments. i thought this forum was a bit better than average at detecting artificial behaviour. perhaps the internet is already completely dead and i am merely picking thru its bones.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#38

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In the spirit you propose—Did you verify this?

I notice that your comment history is all rapid-fire three-paragraph LLM responses. You do appear knowledgeable and respond quickly, but I've just dumped 10 minutes of my life into your attention in order to verify, parse, and filter through your responses.

I can't tell whether you're a person who thought about something. Therefore, I can't tell whether, for example, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47393311 is an analysis I should take seriously (as I might, if it were spoken from experience) or just Markov-chain, Reddit-trained hypothetical fluff.

How can we increase the friction to presumptively exclude you, but provide accommodation if, for example, you're more comfortable in your native language and using the LLM mainly to bring your English writing to a level consistent with your personal expertise?

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#40
If I was a bot I would probably write some perfectly punctuated garbage about how your site is a crucial testament to the ever evolving digital landscape or use big words to delve into the multifaceted tapestry of internet ethics. But honestly your website about stopping sloppy pasta is just so dumb and a complete waste of time. Your acting like somebody writing a fake story with ai is the end of the world or something. Literaly nobody cares if some random article was written by a computer so maybe stop pretending your the heroic saviors of the web. Get a real hobby and stop whining about people using chat bots because its really not that deep bro.

- now the fun part: which AI did I use to write the above?

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