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I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#31

I'm not sure I understand... why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It's a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.

Well, I do. I do not dislike AI at all: I even find it fun, although different. The thing is that I am not only enjoying the journey, although it is was I enjoy the most by far. But when everyone is able to reach the destination, the interest in the journey decreases (if this makes sense). It is not a rant against AI: I use AI daily, it IS useful, it is just less fun since AI is around, and the only way I can explain this is the journey vs the destination.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#32

I love AI but never used Claude Code. I just use the chat interface to study and do one-off scripts. I love having 4-5 bots open and spam the same questions then reading the answers. For everything. Feels like I am doing something, like video games. It has elevated my wardrobe and music tastes but I still had to have a baseline ofc. They are way too agreeable still.

I've been using Claude for a few weeks. It's like the chatbots, but can directly lookup your code. This can be useful if you point it to the right code, but it's using text search; not sophisticated understanding of the structure like an IDE.

You're not missing much; don't believe the hype and liars.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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I don't buy this journey vs destination binary I keep hearing. I always considered myself lucky to be 44 and still writing code all day. I love the journey - the mental satisfaction of creating something complex yet elegant. The perfectionism that leads you to ask yourself can this be simpler, faster etc. But I also now love creating things that frankly I was never going to find the time for.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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post #12

I'm not sure I understand... why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It's a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.

But to push the analogy a bit. If you are rowing on a lake with motorboats, it is a totally different experience. Noisy, constant wake. We are part of an ecosystem, not isolated. Growing up, the lakes in New England were filled with sailboats. There were sailing races. Now, its entirely pontoon boats. Not a sailboat to be found.

Yes indeed, but when you code in your room, you are free to follow the AI debates - or ignore them.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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post #18

As I commented in the other post, it killed mine at work, because my boss is pushing "AI" really hard on the devs. Fortunately, he's now seeing enough evidence to counteract the hype, but it's still going to be present and dragging down my work. But it my off time, I only experiment with LLMs to see if they're getting better. Spoiler alert: they aren't, at least not for the kind of things I want to do.

"at least not for the kind of things I want to do."

Can you share?

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#38
I feel you and at a much younger age. I started programming professionally full time around 2011-2012. Documentation was good but practical applications where you could see what you want to achieve in action were very limited. At the time I found myself writing drivers for fiscal printers using RS-232. The documentation provided by the manufacturer was absolutely horrible. "0x0b -> init, 0x23 -> page", literally code -> single word. Although I hated having to effectively brute force it, the feeling at the end was amazing. I tried AI code on several occasions and I hate it with a passion: full of bugs, completely ignoring edge cases and horrible performance. And ultimately having to spend more time fixing the slop than it takes me to sit down, think it through and get it done right. And I see many "programmers" just throw in a prompt in insert AI company here and celebrate the slop, patting themselves on the back.

It's the programming equivalent of those tiktok videos split in half, top half being random stock videos, bottom being temple run and an AI narration of a mildly wtf reddit post.

In a way I am lucky that I work at a place where everyone gets to choose what they want to use and how they use it. So my weapons of choice are a slightly tweaked, almost vanilla zsh, vim and zed with 0 ai features. I have a number of friends/former coworkers working at places where the usage of ai is not just allowed or encouraged but mandated. And is part of their performance score - the more you slop-code, the better your performance.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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post #11

I just built two projects where one dogfooded the other and setup a fully working slack bot all in 1 hour. If you still want to manually do things you can. AI can answer questions about common topics way faster than searching docs. Idk why this kills peoples passions. Especially of you're old enough to not need a salary

>Idk why this kills peoples passions

Corporate management is full on FOMO and pushes agents down onto teams

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