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Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by righthand »

simonh wrote: post #13
direwolf20 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have the most economic output, the highest quality technology, and the sanest voices of reason. It's too bad they're a dictatorship. If they can fix that I might have to move there.

They are supporting and encouraging Russia’s war against Ukraine. They also provide diplomatic cover and economic support for the Iranian regime. They promote nationalist radicalism and harassment of nonconformists on foreign campuses. They ruthlessly suppress dissent, or even just non Han ethic identity and implement racist eugenic policies in their regions. The comment you replied to referred to Taiwan as existing…

The Usa does similar things across the world. Here I swapped for the Usa.

> They are supporting and encouraging Israel’s war against Iran and Palestine. They also provide diplomatic cover and economic support for the Israeli regime. They promote nationalist radicalism and harassment of nonconformists on foreign campuses (Columbia protests). They ruthlessly suppress dissent (you must support the troops, using chemical weapons on protestors), or even just non White ethic identity and implement racist policies in their regions (rounding up immigrants without due process).

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by cwillu »

modeless wrote: post #10
parker-3461 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) is a bipartisan, nonprofit policy research organization dedicated to advancing practical ideas to address the world’s greatest challenges. Sorry, may I get more information on why this is considered Chinese army propaganda? My understanding is that CSIS ( https://www.csis.org/about ) is an US based organisation that provides analysis on topics which include…

Did you read the first sentence? > In this piece, two researchers from PLA-affiliated National University of Defense Technology argue that

Did you stop reading at the first sentence??

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS »

parker-3461 wrote: post #8
modeless wrote: post #7

Why is Chinese army propaganda on this site? It's not news that the PLA will oppose technology that gives the US military an advantage.

> The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) is a bipartisan, nonprofit policy research organization dedicated to advancing practical ideas to address the world’s greatest challenges. Sorry, may I get more information on why this is considered Chinese army propaganda? My understanding is that CSIS ( https://www.csis.org/about ) is an US based organisation that provides analysis on topics which include…

Not specific to this article, but I generally like to find third party sources to confirm or deny the "bipartisan" and "nonprofit" parts of their about page. I've seen too many where that turned out to be false.

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by cwillu »

modeless wrote: post #10
parker-3461 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) is a bipartisan, nonprofit policy research organization dedicated to advancing practical ideas to address the world’s greatest challenges. Sorry, may I get more information on why this is considered Chinese army propaganda? My understanding is that CSIS ( https://www.csis.org/about ) is an US based organisation that provides analysis on topics which include…

Did you read the first sentence? > In this piece, two researchers from PLA-affiliated National University of Defense Technology argue that

When you were a kid, did you stop listening when your parents said “Santa”, or did you keep listening in order to glean useful information from their propoganda, even knowing that Santa isn't real?

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by nradov »

siliconc0w wrote: post #22

It's not great that they found starlink terminals on Russian drones (they've since tried to lock them down more). These should be export controlled and geo-locked as they are arguably much more powerful than any missile.

SpaceX already does geo-lock them to an extend. But the terminals are exported to so many countries that any meaningful controls are impossible.

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by nradov »

mistrial9 wrote: post #19
cpursley wrote: post #5

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Please elaborate, this sounds like a fun weekend rabbit-hole.

this is very difficult to address with intellectual honesty. It seems obvious to me that people of conscience and standing have built plenty of the most cutting edge tech of this age. Yet those people are structurally embedded within business and government. Far-reaching technology is one thing, but satellite networks are especially impactful in many ways for both real time intelligence gathering and also building a…

The US Federal government has done a lot to save the whales.

https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/national/marine-mammal-protec...

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by cosignal »

tw-20260303-001 wrote: post #28
notepad0x90 wrote: post #18

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They're hardly a voice of reason, they criticize the US so everyone rallies around them, but they're just taking advantage of the situation like anyone else would. It's all optics. I think the era of the superpower is already over. They can't build a peaceful relationship with taiwan, it would hurt the PRC if they did that. They need an point of contention for political reasons there, but taiwan has seen what has bec…

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Are you new to this site? I ask because your comment is entirely against the decorum we try to maintain here. This is a place for meaningful discussion (on topics pertaining to engineering and science in particular), it is not like Reddit where we hurl insults on one another in some apparent attempt to ratio people we disagree with.

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by nradov »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #18
blondie9x wrote: post #6

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They're hardly a voice of reason, they criticize the US so everyone rallies around them, but they're just taking advantage of the situation like anyone else would. It's all optics. I think the era of the superpower is already over. They can't build a peaceful relationship with taiwan, it would hurt the PRC if they did that. They need an point of contention for political reasons there, but taiwan has seen what has bec…

BRICS isn't an alliance. They have never agreed on anything significant or taken any meaningful coordinated action.

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by phpnode »

nradov wrote: post #35
siliconc0w wrote: post #22

It's not great that they found starlink terminals on Russian drones (they've since tried to lock them down more). These should be export controlled and geo-locked as they are arguably much more powerful than any missile.

SpaceX already does geo-lock them to an extend. But the terminals are exported to so many countries that any meaningful controls are impossible.

The terminal knows where it is at all times.

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by 1123581321 »

blondie9x wrote: post #6

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This is a common attitude among Americans, to see other countries as a beacon of reason and even contemplate moving there, when theirs is moderately frustrating and has plenty of constructive reform available to do at the person’s level of influence. It was popular during the Cold War to fantasize about living in the USSR, and today, the fantasy is typically Canada, Europe, Russia or China depending on politics and level of interest in technology.
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