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Ad-tech is fascist tech

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Re: Ad-tech is fascist tech

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You’d still be having fascism here even if the internet didn’t exist. The most reliable way to prevent the rise of the far right is to implement robust safety nets and low inequality, to reduce status anxiety and grievance. Support for such measures (welfare, healthcare, unionization, high taxes etc) is usually low among Americans. Eventually rents/healthcare/tuitions outpace income, so people become desperate and st…

The post is not about preventing the rise of fascism, it's about not preemptively building tools for them to use in implementing fascism.

Re: Ad-tech is fascist tech

#33
post #4

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I found many points interesting. Here's one: Policymakers supposedly work for us/the people and they could have made surveillance ad tech expensive and thereby severely limited it, but > "Policymakers failed us because cops and spies hate privacy laws and lobby like hell against them. Cops and spies love commercial surveillance, because the private sector's massive surveillance dossiers are an off-the-books trove of…

That point may be pithy, but it's unconvincing to any skeptic; those are characteristics of a polemic.

Re: Ad-tech is fascist tech

#34

HN has ads (job ads for YC companies). When I see people post these deranged takes about ads on HN, I always ask myself: Do they not notice this--a common criticism of ads is that they blend too much into the real content, and this is nowhere more true then on HN--or do words just not mean anything to them, do they just mindlessly repeat memes rather then thinking about what these ideas mean for their own life? Is a…

When most people complain about ads, they are complaining about targeted ads.

Job postings, Show HN, and other ads on HN are contextually relevant to a majority of the users and require no tracking to present.

This post appears to be about the former, not the later.

Re: Ad-tech is fascist tech

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post #4

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Would you be assuaged if it was titled "Ad-tech is police state tech"?

I think that would definitely make it a more precise polemic, but the incorrect use of the word seems more of a symptom of the author's sloppiness than anything else.

Re: Ad-tech is fascist tech

#36
post #29

Why was this flagged? And, there's no vouch option Yes, Thiel openly says surveillance tech is the anti-Christ. Then, he goes on to build the tech. The frustrating thing is seeing it happen in real-time and knowing you can't inform or educate enough people.

https://www.worthynews.com/105933-peter-thiel-warns-of-antic...

Re: Ad-tech is fascist tech

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> Fascism, at least as the Nazi's defined and implemented it, is the belief that a socialist economy will work when the people have a similar genetic likeness.

I have seen many arguments supporting the destructionists (aka trumpists) from that exact vein. From the longstanding abstract "immigrants come here and sit on welfare" and "we need to take care of our own" to specifically supporting the recent pogroms as necessary before we can do things like fix healthcare or restore employees' negotiating power. So even by your definition, it seems eminently reasonable to describe the destructionist movement as fascist. And the point isn't to use the label, drop the mic, and consider the topic solved. But rather it's to have a basic dialogue so that we can discuss constructive solutions for opposing it - and that's basically how it's being used in the original post, regardless of your tone policing.

(On the idea itself, I'd say it's preposterous to think that the corpos that drive our politics are going to suddenly switch to supporting socialism if only we racially purify our society, but there are unfortunately a lot of true believers. I'd say the dynamic is more like the only point of the socialist aspect is to assuage people's consciences for having rejected their empathy here and now)

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