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Workers report watching Ray-Ban Meta-shot footage of people using the bathroom

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Re: Workers report watching Ray-Ban Meta-shot footage of people using the bathroom

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Why especially public transport?

Well, when you physically assault someone on public transport, at least there's a lot of witnesses present who can testify against you?

Or for you. If nobody saw nuthin...

Re: Workers report watching Ray-Ban Meta-shot footage of people using the bathroom

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How many times will the same report be regurgitated and reposted? There is nothing added here that the original source didn't cover already ( https://www.svd.se/a/K8nrV4/metas-ai-smart-glasses-and-data-... ). Read that instead of the derivative blogspam.

Can that original source be reposted on HN within a short timespan or will it be deleted/comments moved? How then would this report gain more traction if only allowed once?

Re: Workers report watching Ray-Ban Meta-shot footage of people using the bathroom

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"using the bathroom" will be the least of what they're watching people do. Anyone wearing these glasses (or similar) should know that all of the audio/video picked up by the glasses will be watched and analyzed by others, likely by AI as well. Just like the entire point of facebook is to spy on people and profit from that data, the entire point of these devices is to spy on people in ways that the facebook app doesn'…

And now realise the same is true for your robot vacuum, car camera, doorbell camera, etc etc We consumers have no protection against big tech

At least the vacuum does not try to start a civil war for add impressions..

Re: Workers report watching Ray-Ban Meta-shot footage of people using the bathroom

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post #9

"using the bathroom" will be the least of what they're watching people do. Anyone wearing these glasses (or similar) should know that all of the audio/video picked up by the glasses will be watched and analyzed by others, likely by AI as well. Just like the entire point of facebook is to spy on people and profit from that data, the entire point of these devices is to spy on people in ways that the facebook app doesn'…

And now realise the same is true for your robot vacuum, car camera, doorbell camera, etc etc We consumers have no protection against big tech

>We consumers have no protection against big tech

Stop buying it. You are not a robot that is forced to purchase a video doorbell or a robotic vacuum cleaner or a smart thermostat.

You have free will. If you do not like a commercially available product, don't buy it, don't use it. It's that simple.

Re: Workers report watching Ray-Ban Meta-shot footage of people using the bathroom

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post #9

"using the bathroom" will be the least of what they're watching people do. Anyone wearing these glasses (or similar) should know that all of the audio/video picked up by the glasses will be watched and analyzed by others, likely by AI as well. Just like the entire point of facebook is to spy on people and profit from that data, the entire point of these devices is to spy on people in ways that the facebook app doesn'…

Great if I wear sunglasses at the public pool people think I'm a nonce filming kids.

Re: Workers report watching Ray-Ban Meta-shot footage of people using the bathroom

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Violence isn't the answer. Handheld IR/non-visible-wavelength LiDAR systems that permanently fry CMOS image sensors are.

If state laws permit the capture of light, let them capture light. Light has no spectrum allocation laws, no license required to emit, and as long as you're not disturbing anyone (e.g. with deliberately obnoxious use of visible wavelengths), you're not breaking any laws.

LiDAR operators do not have a legal duty to protect image sensors around them.

Re: Workers report watching Ray-Ban Meta-shot footage of people using the bathroom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And now realise the same is true for your robot vacuum, car camera, doorbell camera, etc etc We consumers have no protection against big tech

>We consumers have no protection against big tech Stop buying it. You are not a robot that is forced to purchase a video doorbell or a robotic vacuum cleaner or a smart thermostat. You have free will. If you do not like a commercially available product, don't buy it, don't use it. It's that simple.

I think it's a reasonable ask that when buying a product, it has reasonable levels of safety, security, and privacy. Especially with products that might change over time because of software updates.

Yes, there are ToS, but it's fine for us as a society to say that consumers deserve more protection against big tech so we aren't a TOS update away from having everything shared or be used for something that wasn't promoted.

> You have free will. If you do not like a commercially available product, don't buy it, don't use it.

Caveat emptor. But lemon laws exist, too.

And, a commercially available product now might not be the same a year from now.

Re: Workers report watching Ray-Ban Meta-shot footage of people using the bathroom

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Sadly, "using the bathroom" will cause a more immediate visceral reaction for most people than "maliciously manipulating your entire life via ad networks and media".

Do we really care what it is that will cause the visceral reaction? If I said it might reveal ways/means or private IP or any of a million other examples, few would really care as not everyone is involved in that. However, everyone goes to the bathroom.

I care a little bit - I think it's genuinely disappointing that your privacy can be so thoroughly compromised by interesting uses of metadata... but I also won't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. It'd be great is people truly understood the dangerous of invasive monitoring outside their physical forms (a, imo, relatively minor privacy to have compromised compared to your behavior) - but if it gets folks riled up I'm all for it.
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