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Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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usa + israel = imperialism + genocide this should seriously stop. and i am very sad Europeans are spineless and following the US in another insane middle-east war. wasn't afghanistan and iraq enough?

"Europe" is not following the US in this.

in what Europe are you living sorry? The only one outspoken against the war have been the Spanish. UK, Italy and Germany are on it - offering logistical support and everything the US needs.

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Price of a nation disagreeing from turning its people into lowly peasants of the Global Liberal Borg (TM)'s and not accepting its "assigned" role of satrap-y. In contrast, look at the ignominious history in India (-n subcontinent) over the past millennia - whose moron elites are so deluded that they end up selling even more Anglo-American colonization in the name of decolonization. Fascinating evolution of these two…

Tell me: is the US supposed to stand idly by while the Iranian regime develops nuclear weapons? They pursue nuclear weapons of their own volition, by the way. There are paranuclear states and nuclear threshold states which have not pursued nuclear weapons and have delivered on providing for their people in every manner in which a human society needs. So what does Iran hope to achieve that diplomacy cannot? At what po…

USA and Israel have brought this upon themselves. After decades of regime change operations in the region (usually for the worse), it is clear that any state that doesn't pursue nuclear weapons isn't really an independent state.

Do you know who doesn't get regime-changed? North Korea.

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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post #13

If you want to get the Iranian side of the story, look at presstv.ir.

> Iranian side of the story Islamic regime 's side. Rather key distinction v. Iranian people.

I am afraid that this will bring them closer together. That the people who would welcome outside world to do a magical thing that reforms Iran wont like the practical thing the world actually did.

By afraid I am not saying it will happen, it is not a prediction. I think that it is a risk.

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Iranian side of the story Islamic regime 's side. Rather key distinction v. Iranian people.

What do you think the New York Times or CNN is (or rather, were).

Varies. Not all of them are equal. At least not in the same way. Distinctions are important. NYT, for example, employs Farnaz Fassihi who's a known regime shill. CNN recently sent a reporter live to the region who has to operate under the regime's restrictions to be let in and cannot accurately report everything even if they wanted to. Same with Reuters who has an office inside. They basically had a choice to bite the bullet and agree to the terms and be one of the few foreign reporters with access, or not have access at all and freely report.

That said, PressTV is different from the above a it's an officially a state-operated entity, so it is not a question of mere bias.

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I was wondering today how many people will develop cancer in a few years because of this. Why must Israel be so duplicitous? It is exhausting.

It's not even duplicitous because that implies some sort of benevolent facade. It's outright evil.

Israel does employ a facade of a liberal democracy that aligns itself to some extent with Western culture. Though this is very much in decline and I think, generally, sentiment on Israel has shifted quite dramatically in the West in recent years.

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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I was wondering today how many people will develop cancer in a few years because of this. Why must Israel be so duplicitous? It is exhausting.

It all started with the war in Gaza. We, the West collectively, with the exception of only a few European states like Spain and Ireland, allowed them to perpetrate war crimes, which were rarely met with criticism, let alone consequences.

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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post #33
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Iranian side of the story Islamic regime 's side. Rather key distinction v. Iranian people.

I am afraid that this will bring them closer together. That the people who would welcome outside world to do a magical thing that reforms Iran wont like the practical thing the world actually did. By afraid I am not saying it will happen, it is not a prediction. I think that it is a risk.

After they killed 40k+ in Jan? Perhaps.

Re: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran's oil depots bombed

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This whole situation made me realize that the mechanism for holding presidents accountable for campaign promises really doesn’t exist. None of this is what people voted for, and is almost directly the opposite. That isn’t a new thing, of course, but this seems like a pretty huge turnaround from what the campaign was about. This seems like a fundamental problem with the system to me. If you can’t count on the candidat…

This used to be the job of the third estate, but traditional media has all been captured and the algorithms have done the rest, drowning us in a sea of content.
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