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Re: Nintendo Sues U.S. Government for Tariff Refunds

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Post by shagie »

joe_mamba wrote: post #6

So if they win, the US taxpayer will pay for it?

Most of the money that Nintendo paid and is entitled to have be returned to them has not gone into the government's coffers.

The money that has passed various deadlines may be more difficult to return, however it is still money that is due to Nintendo. That may be more difficult to obtain, but it isn't the government's money in the first place.

US tax payers aren't paying money to Nintendo - they're paying for the government's lawyers to try to argue against not paying back illegally collected tariffs.

https://realeconomy.rsmus.com/ieepa-tariffs-struck-down-what...

Re: Nintendo Sues U.S. Government for Tariff Refunds

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Post by skybrian »

akudha wrote: post #17

Can someone ELI5 how this would work? Is it possible to accurately calculate the amount, with the tariff percentages changing on a weekly basis? If companies do get refunds, do they just keep it? After all, it was the end user who paid/pays, isn’t it? Also, do/will these companies drop prices if/when tariffs are reversed?

The company that paid the tax gets their money back. Whether they decide to make any refunds to their customers is up to them. A few companies have said they would.

This is no different from any other cost. Their cost of goods is lower in retrospect than they thought it was, so it will show up as a gain on their income statement.

What's the economic effect, though? One way to model a tariff that's later refunded is that it's sort of like if a cartel colluded to temporarily keep prices higher. Competition between firms often keeps prices close to costs, but this wouldn't be true for a monopoly or a cartel.

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Post by happytoexplain »

loeg wrote: post #28
happytoexplain wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never heard of V.O.S. Selections.

https://www.scotusblog.com/cases/case-files/trump-v-v-o-s-se...

Thanks, but I was answering your question by anecdote, not asking for clarification. To be clear: I'm implying an opinion that Nintendo has more name recognition than V.O.S. Selections, not that their suit is otherwise more significant.

Re: Nintendo Sues U.S. Government for Tariff Refunds

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Post by we_have_options »

czzr wrote: post #25
yibers wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So hold on. The US taxpayer first paid the tariffs themselves. Next he has to pay compensation for the tariffs he himself paid?

Essentially yes. Companies paid the tariff costs, largely passed this on to consumers via higher prices, and now companies are due the tariff costs back. Consumers of course won’t get anything back. Well done America.

Hey, not a problem. We pay in a fiat currency we control.

Re: Nintendo Sues U.S. Government for Tariff Refunds

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Post by shagie »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #23
yibers wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So hold on. The US taxpayer first paid the tariffs themselves. Next he has to pay compensation for the tariffs he himself paid?

We're still on a massive defecit, so yes? We didn't have that tarriffs money hanging out in a vault.

Tariffs do hang out in a vault for a period of time when the importer can challenge the collection or the amount.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/06/cbp-tells-judge-it-...

> Under customs law, importers generally have about 314 days after goods enter the country before a tariff payment is finalized, a process known as “liquidation.”

> If companies fail to challenge the duty and request a refund after the duty is finalized — or liquidated — they must file a formal protest and, in some cases, challenge the decision in the New York-based trade court to recover the funds.

Re: Nintendo Sues U.S. Government for Tariff Refunds

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Post by DSMan195276 »

akudha wrote: post #17

Can someone ELI5 how this would work? Is it possible to accurately calculate the amount, with the tariff percentages changing on a weekly basis? If companies do get refunds, do they just keep it? After all, it was the end user who paid/pays, isn’t it? Also, do/will these companies drop prices if/when tariffs are reversed?

In this case because Nintendo has an American branch (Nintendo of America) that imports their goods, Nintendo of America is who paid the tariffs and would get a refund. Consumers only paid indirectly via potential price increases, so no they don't get any potential money back.

Re: Nintendo Sues U.S. Government for Tariff Refunds

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Post by johnnyanmac »

shagie wrote: post #36
johnnyanmac wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're still on a massive defecit, so yes? We didn't have that tarriffs money hanging out in a vault.

Tariffs do hang out in a vault for a period of time when the importer can challenge the collection or the amount. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/06/cbp-tells-judge-it-... > Under customs law, importers generally have about 314 days after goods enter the country before a tariff payment is finalized, a process known as “liquidation.” > If companies fail to challenge the duty and request a refund after the duty i…

Well, fair enough. I stand corrected.
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