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Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

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This is just crazy. Lets ask the power company to build some trains for us. They transport electricity, they _must_ know about transporting people. They can power the lines themselves! If this was so easy, teams wouldn't suck, matrix would be everywhere, and discord would be replaced already by the furries (as much as stoat is trying).

No. This is a CEO expressing righteous indignation about a company that provides (seemingly) little value and has almost no competition.

Slack won't open up their data moat to AI, which is shameful. And Slack costs way too much. If there were any competitors, the price would drop significantly. It's not like chat is a hard problem. And Slack's app is an absolute bear.

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude Code could absolutely build a chat client in the hands of someone who could also build the rest around it. Slack itself originally ran on irc servers as the back end, and I consider it a modern IRC implementation.

> Claude Code could absolutely build a chat client in the hands of someone who could also build the rest around it. So why can't Anthropic build a CLI client that doesn't flickr and doesn't consume 68 GB to run a CLI wrapper on top of their API? https://x.com/jarredsumner/status/2026497606575398987

that is 1/8 of Slack so it’d be progress :)

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#35

Slack is in no way a great program (source: use it daily for work), but it seems to me that it works as intended, and developers can already extend it with bots/AI agents. Plus, Claude as an agent is already installable to Slack. For compliance, my company already has a tool that scrapes all slack messages, and archives them for a required amount of years. I'm at a small company, so I assume large corporations have a…

Slack's API rate limits and design make it difficult to replicate the data within Slack to a data store that can then be used to provide context to AI agents.

You are forced to use their MCP and their realtime search APIs, which don't work very well/not performant and may require additional licensing.

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

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post #27
post #11

This is just crazy. Lets ask the power company to build some trains for us. They transport electricity, they _must_ know about transporting people. They can power the lines themselves! If this was so easy, teams wouldn't suck, matrix would be everywhere, and discord would be replaced already by the furries (as much as stoat is trying).

Is it really so different than asking the search company back in '01 to make a mail client, a browser, a maps app, ...?

Was anyone asking them to do that?

Many people now think they should be broken up.

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#37
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Claude Code could absolutely build a chat client in the hands of someone who could also build the rest around it. So why can't Anthropic build a CLI client that doesn't flickr and doesn't consume 68 GB to run a CLI wrapper on top of their API? https://x.com/jarredsumner/status/2026497606575398987

that is 1/8 of Slack so it’d be progress :)

Slack doesn't require nearly as much to run. And Slack has about two orders of magnitude more functionality

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#39
post #33
post #11

This is just crazy. Lets ask the power company to build some trains for us. They transport electricity, they _must_ know about transporting people. They can power the lines themselves! If this was so easy, teams wouldn't suck, matrix would be everywhere, and discord would be replaced already by the furries (as much as stoat is trying).

No. This is a CEO expressing righteous indignation about a company that provides (seemingly) little value and has almost no competition. Slack won't open up their data moat to AI, which is shameful. And Slack costs way too much. If there were any competitors, the price would drop significantly. It's not like chat is a hard problem. And Slack's app is an absolute bear.

> Slack won't open up their data moat to AI, which is shameful.

Ah yes. It's shameful that Slack won't open data moat to AI. You know, those millions of chats (including private data) by people who didn't give consent to this

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

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post #27
post #11

This is just crazy. Lets ask the power company to build some trains for us. They transport electricity, they _must_ know about transporting people. They can power the lines themselves! If this was so easy, teams wouldn't suck, matrix would be everywhere, and discord would be replaced already by the furries (as much as stoat is trying).

Is it really so different than asking the search company back in '01 to make a mail client, a browser, a maps app, ...?

I didn’t ask them. Did you?
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