Most regular people, they don't care and will continue to use ChatGPT
ChatGPT has 900 million users now, across continents and they don't care about this DoW deal.
Cancel ChatGPT AI boycott surges after OpenAI pentagon military deal
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#32I'm confused. Sam writes "Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement." How is this different from what Anthropic wanted?
As far as I can tell, and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, the OpenAI version was, we'll let the government do whatever it wants, that's specified in law. Whereas Anthropic seemed to say, we're not going to cross those lines, even if they are permitted by law. Important distinction as there are now no laws against autonomous weapons and surveillance has been widespread and unhindered by judicial oversig…
So I guess the question is, when Sam says "and we put them into our agreement," what exactly was in the agreement? I distrust Sam. But if you were to trust his statements, it seems like he's saying he implemented in his agreement with the gevernment the safety features Anthropic wanted.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
As far as I can tell, and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, the OpenAI version was, we'll let the government do whatever it wants, that's specified in law. Whereas Anthropic seemed to say, we're not going to cross those lines, even if they are permitted by law. Important distinction as there are now no laws against autonomous weapons and surveillance has been widespread and unhindered by judicial oversig…
So I guess the question is, when Sam says "and we put them into our agreement," what exactly was in the agreement? I distrust Sam. But if you were to trust his statements, it seems like he's saying he implemented in his agreement with the gevernment the safety features Anthropic wanted.
He's trying to make it sound so, but in legal domain, devil lies in the details.
It seems that government wanted to use Claude for mass analysis of commercially obtained data on American people and Anthropic wouldn't let them (source: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/03/inside-anthro... ).
DoD kept asking for changes of contract where at least the legalese would be changed to somewhat more permissive but Anthropic stayed their ground.
Sam Altman probably let them do that, while using language like "we have technical means of oversight and the same red lines as Anthropic". But in reality they will allow DoD to do what Anthropic didn't.
See this for more information: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/PBrggrw4mhgbksoYY/a-tale-of-...
Re: Cancel ChatGPT AI boycott surges after OpenAI pentagon military deal
#34Most regular people, they don't care and will continue to use ChatGPT ChatGPT has 900 million users now, across continents and they don't care about this DoW deal.
But the 10M that care will spend their money elsewhere. That is already something, for OpenAI and also for the other competitors these people will switch to.
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#35I regret ever having signed up. But not only because of this. Also because they just don't clearly say that they don't analyze, read or even use my prompts - it just freaks me out that some derived or "anonymized" version of my prompt is saved or even used for training other models.
No offense meant, but unfortunately tone cannot be given well via text: What did you think was happening there? The concerns you have expressed seem like they were clearly happening for all users, no matter what, from the beginning.
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#36> more than 1.5 million people have taken action, either by cancelling subscriptions, sharing boycott messages on social media, or signing up via quitgpt.org
That's just silly compared to their user base and wont have any effect
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#37Most regular people, they don't care and will continue to use ChatGPT ChatGPT has 900 million users now, across continents and they don't care about this DoW deal.
Yeah but OpenAI's market share is down to 45% from 69% a year ago, they are #4 on LLM Arena behind Claude, Gemini and Grok, they are heavily loss making and winning may depend on having the best researchers who are likely put off.
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#38Genuine question - what’s wrong with military leveraging modern technologies? They have been doing it for ages. And thanks to this process for example we have now internet.
Or what’s inherently wrong with catering to military customer?
What’s going on here?
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#39Genuine question - what’s wrong with military leveraging modern technologies? They have been doing it for ages. And thanks to this process for example we have now internet. Or what’s inherently wrong with catering to military customer? What’s going on here?
A lot of people won’t be dealing with a customer that may be using their product to inflict bodily harm or murder someone. A lot of people are also displeased with the current head of Ministry of Defense, and with his actions, e.g. that he allegedly ordered people killed after their boat has been destroyed
Re: Cancel ChatGPT AI boycott surges after OpenAI pentagon military deal
#40Genuine question - what’s wrong with military leveraging modern technologies? They have been doing it for ages. And thanks to this process for example we have now internet. Or what’s inherently wrong with catering to military customer? What’s going on here?
A lot of people won’t be dealing with a customer that may be using their product to inflict bodily harm or murder someone. A lot of people are also displeased with the current head of Ministry of Defense, and with his actions, e.g. that he allegedly ordered people killed after their boat has been destroyed
Politics with a sprinkles of hypocrisy, got it.