I just finished writing a post about exactly this. Software development, as the act of manually producing code, is dying. A new discipline is being born. It is much closer to proper engineering. Like an engineer overseeing the construction of a bridge, the job is not to lay bricks. It is to ensure the structure does not collapse. The marginal cost of code is collapsing. That single fact changes everything. https://no…
When AI writes the software, who verifies it?
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Re: When AI writes the software, who verifies it?
#32I just finished writing a post about exactly this. Software development, as the act of manually producing code, is dying. A new discipline is being born. It is much closer to proper engineering. Like an engineer overseeing the construction of a bridge, the job is not to lay bricks. It is to ensure the structure does not collapse. The marginal cost of code is collapsing. That single fact changes everything. https://no…
Accountability then
Re: When AI writes the software, who verifies it?
#33Re: When AI writes the software, who verifies it?
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
But it's so BORING. AI gets to do the fun part (writing code) and I'm stuck with the lame bits. It's like watching someone else solve a puzzle, or watching someone else play a game vs playing it yourself (at least that's half as interesting as playing it through)
For me the most fun part is getting something that works. Design the goal, but not micromanage and get lost in the details. I love AI for that, but it is hard really owning code this way. (At least I manually approve every or most changes, but still, verifying is hard).
Re: When AI writes the software, who verifies it?
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The problem is some developers now just submit code for review that they didn't bother to read. Can you blame them? All the AI companies are saying “this does a better job than you ever could”, every discussion topic on AI includes at least one (totally organic, I’m sure) comment along the lines of “I’ve been developing software for over twenty years and these tools are going to replace me in six months. I’m learni…
I'm an 99% organic person (I suppose I have tooth fillings) and the new models write code better than I do. I've been using LLMS for 14+ months now and they've exceeded my expectations.
Re: When AI writes the software, who verifies it?
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm an 99% organic person (I suppose I have tooth fillings) and the new models write code better than I do. I've been using LLMS for 14+ months now and they've exceeded my expectations.
So are you learning a trade? Or do you somehow think you’ll be one of the developers “good enough” to remain employed?
I'm thinking HVAC or painting lines in parking lots. HVAC because I can program smart systems and parking lot lines because I can use google maps and algos to propose more efficient parking lot designs to existing business owners.
There is that paradox when if something becomes cheaper there is more demand so we'll see what happens.
Finally, I'm a mediocre dev that can only handle 2-3 agents at a time so I probably won't be good enough.
Re: When AI writes the software, who verifies it?
#37Because of the scale of generated code, often it is the AI verifying the AI's work.
So who's verifying the AI doing the verifying or is it yet another AI layer doing that? If something goes wrong who's liable, the AI?
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#38You do. Even the latest models still frequently write really weird code. The problem is some developers now just submit code for review that they didn't bother to read. You can tell. Code review is more important than ever imho.
But it's so BORING. AI gets to do the fun part (writing code) and I'm stuck with the lame bits. It's like watching someone else solve a puzzle, or watching someone else play a game vs playing it yourself (at least that's half as interesting as playing it through)
Re: When AI writes the software, who verifies it?
#39You do. Even the latest models still frequently write really weird code. The problem is some developers now just submit code for review that they didn't bother to read. You can tell. Code review is more important than ever imho.
But it's so BORING. AI gets to do the fun part (writing code) and I'm stuck with the lame bits. It's like watching someone else solve a puzzle, or watching someone else play a game vs playing it yourself (at least that's half as interesting as playing it through)
Re: When AI writes the software, who verifies it?
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The problem is some developers now just submit code for review that they didn't bother to read. Can you blame them? All the AI companies are saying “this does a better job than you ever could”, every discussion topic on AI includes at least one (totally organic, I’m sure) comment along the lines of “I’ve been developing software for over twenty years and these tools are going to replace me in six months. I’m learni…
I'm an 99% organic person (I suppose I have tooth fillings) and the new models write code better than I do. I've been using LLMS for 14+ months now and they've exceeded my expectations.