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Claude becomes number one app on the U.S. App Store

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Re: Claude becomes number one app on the U.S. App Store

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Post by ramraj07 »

yesbut wrote: post #17
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #11

Obvious political reasons and implications aside, a clear quality gap opened up late last year when Opus 4.5 was released vs. GPT-5. Opus was obviously and demonstrably superior to any GPT-5 tier. The release of GPT-5.2 didn't improve matters, and then Opus 4.6 widened the gap further. Right now talking to GPT-5.2 Pro is 10x slower than chatting with Opus 4.6 and the output returned is, nevertheless, generally lower…

no, it is because of the public perspection of Anthropic holding a principled stance against allowing their software to pull the trigger and kill humans. ChatGPT still has the bigger brand name recognition.

Anyone who's used both Claude and ChatGPT will instantly agree what is better by a large margin. Theres maybe a brand recognition long tail but its more likely theyre the rare occasional users who use the free tier. Thus ChatGPT is becoming the shitty free AI app while Claude is what you use to get real work done. Time (in months) will tell yow this will go.

Re: Claude becomes number one app on the U.S. App Store

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Post by sheeshkebab »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #11

Obvious political reasons and implications aside, a clear quality gap opened up late last year when Opus 4.5 was released vs. GPT-5. Opus was obviously and demonstrably superior to any GPT-5 tier. The release of GPT-5.2 didn't improve matters, and then Opus 4.6 widened the gap further. Right now talking to GPT-5.2 Pro is 10x slower than chatting with Opus 4.6 and the output returned is, nevertheless, generally lower…

Agree on the gap - in my own complex greenfield software dev spec test, opus 4.6 blows codex 5.3 out of the water, by wide margin, both in ui and backend.

Re: Claude becomes number one app on the U.S. App Store

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Post by AmericanOP »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #24
yesbut wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no, it is because of the public perspection of Anthropic holding a principled stance against allowing their software to pull the trigger and kill humans. ChatGPT still has the bigger brand name recognition.

If that's entirely the case, there could still be interesting implications, as people who switch to Claude are unlikely to switch back to ChatGPT in the near future. (If, that is, they regularly use LLMs for any technical or professional task.)

Open AI had first mover advantage.

Sam squandered it.

Re: Claude becomes number one app on the U.S. App Store

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Post by verst »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #26
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #11

Obvious political reasons and implications aside, a clear quality gap opened up late last year when Opus 4.5 was released vs. GPT-5. Opus was obviously and demonstrably superior to any GPT-5 tier. The release of GPT-5.2 didn't improve matters, and then Opus 4.6 widened the gap further. Right now talking to GPT-5.2 Pro is 10x slower than chatting with Opus 4.6 and the output returned is, nevertheless, generally lower…

I just cancelled my OpenAI $200 sub yesterday because of all this, but sadly I can't agree. Codex 5.3 Xhigh > Opus 4.6 in my work to this point. Hoping for Opus 4.7 or whatever comes next to rectify this as I'm a bit annoyed over having to drop to a lower quality model.

I use Opus 4.6 Fast-mode. It produces significantly better results in my work than any Codex 5.3 tier.

Re: Claude becomes number one app on the U.S. App Store

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Post by jetbalsa »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #26
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #11

Obvious political reasons and implications aside, a clear quality gap opened up late last year when Opus 4.5 was released vs. GPT-5. Opus was obviously and demonstrably superior to any GPT-5 tier. The release of GPT-5.2 didn't improve matters, and then Opus 4.6 widened the gap further. Right now talking to GPT-5.2 Pro is 10x slower than chatting with Opus 4.6 and the output returned is, nevertheless, generally lower…

I just cancelled my OpenAI $200 sub yesterday because of all this, but sadly I can't agree. Codex 5.3 Xhigh > Opus 4.6 in my work to this point. Hoping for Opus 4.7 or whatever comes next to rectify this as I'm a bit annoyed over having to drop to a lower quality model.

What where you using it for? claude is really good at agentic stuff, Pure coding, I can see codex being better, but for the entire workflow, I'm not sure

Re: Claude becomes number one app on the U.S. App Store

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Post by gylterud »

lukew3 wrote: post #4

I think their ads are better than chatgpt’s. I’ve seen them more recently encouraging people to “keep thinking” and use it to improve themselves

I did not realise there are ads for LLMs. Of course if I thought about it, I would conclude that there must be. But somehow the concept seems strange to me. What do they advertise? The LLM can do so many different things… I guess they are all “welcome! To the world of tomorrow!”

Then again, I know nothing about ads these days. Last time I had any ad exposure was twenty years ago, when I lived at home with my parents.

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