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How much does it cost to be an audiophile?

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Re: How much does it cost to be an audiophile?

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A $100-500 set of headphones, decent headphone amp ($50-500), and FLAC files will probably get you to "98" on the log scale, too. (I'm a little wary of buying used headphones, at least without replacing all the soft parts and cleaning thoroughly, though.)

A $20 USB soundcard also seems to help, if your source is a laptop.

But read extensive reviews first. There are a lot of cheap and horrible USB soundcards, and many times the built-in audio out is better.

Re: How much does it cost to be an audiophile?

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A $100-500 set of headphones, decent headphone amp ($50-500), and FLAC files will probably get you to "98" on the log scale, too. (I'm a little wary of buying used headphones, at least without replacing all the soft parts and cleaning thoroughly, though.)

This would be true if they used a head simulator for recording. Since they don't, you will get the wrong projection. All headphones sound more like "the concert is happening between my ears" than "the concert is happening on a stage in front of me".

Re: How much does it cost to be an audiophile?

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By the time most people could afford any of this equipment their hearing has probably degraded to such a point that they can only hear 12kHz to 14kHz anyway.

Although unscientific, I played some tones on youtube in the office and the twenty somethings could hear almost 20kHz and the forty somethings couldn't hear anything by the time the frequency sweep was just below 15kHz.

Re: How much does it cost to be an audiophile?

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Very high quality audio reproduction can be hacked too, and audio enthusiasts like myself know how to find deals and hacks to get superior performance with much less money. For example, I have a circle of friends who upgrade the OPAMP chips on their sound cards ($10) or use Sonic T-Amp ($30 triclass T-Class digital amp rivaling hifi tube amplifiers) paired with passive studio monitors from Wharfedale, Celestion, or Tannoy (around $200 on ebay when recording studios upgrade to powered monitors).

edit - added references:

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/sonicimpact/t_2.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_T_amplifier

http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/opamp_intro.php

Re: How much does it cost to be an audiophile?

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Audiophile & Student checking in here. Most people don't realize that there is gold on craigslist that older crowd is throwing out due to their wives nagging ("These speakers are too big.." etc) I've put together an amazing system using Polk SDA-2b's, Parasound HCA-1200, & Onkyo TS-DX787(as a preamp)(donated) and behringer uca-202 DAC for under 300 dollars. Cables are all monoprice and it blows my mind that people pa…

I built my system in a similar way (e.g. a great Threshold S200 amplifier from the 80's cost me $700). One frustration I had was never being sure what is a good price. In part to scratch that itch (as well as the "learn Haskell" itch), I've built http://kruipen.com to track used audio equipment prices.

Re: How much does it cost to be an audiophile?

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A $100-500 set of headphones, decent headphone amp ($50-500), and FLAC files will probably get you to "98" on the log scale, too. (I'm a little wary of buying used headphones, at least without replacing all the soft parts and cleaning thoroughly, though.)

A $20 USB soundcard also seems to help, if your source is a laptop.

Yeah, what I meant by "amp" was integrated USB DAC + amp. I use a Headroom Total Bithead, which isn't the best, but isn't the worst. I am not really sure what the best in various price ranges would be.

There's huge variation in quality of headphone-out on computers. I'm sure some are good, and most Apple products are at least ok, but I've usually found even the lowest end (CMOY, Filo, etc.) is a big improvement.

(plus, the amp is really helpful for high-impedance headphones. Mine range from ~30 to ~600 Ohm.)

Re: How much does it cost to be an audiophile?

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Um... You COULD spend a lot of money, or you could learn some basic electronic and woodworking skills. I built a set of ZDT3.5's (Google it) for $250. I built (from various kit pieces) my own T-amp for $75 to power them. Your Mac already has a great sound card capable of extreme sample playback rates. A couple of FLAC recordings later, you're in business.

Re: How much does it cost to be an audiophile?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who spends far too much money on 20+ years old cars, I think I have to agree with you. Being an audiophile is a bit like being a car enthusiast: there really is nothing rational about spending so much money on something that most people don't see the value of, something that is so subjective that you can't explain it to them. I think in the end, it's more about the joy you get out of the idea of being able…

At least you could tell the difference between a cheap car and an expensive car in a blind test.

You can't really say that for cars, either. Look at the premiums paid for "numbers matching" cars.

Re: How much does it cost to be an audiophile?

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I would disagree with the initial premise that it's about the pursuit of "perfect sound reproduction". There's many people who do that, but that's not what the audiophile world really has become. It's about a bunch of hand waving and big checkbook spending to impress other audiophiles. Oddly, that describes a lot of "hobbies". Nobody who feels that a $4,000 power cable is important has any semblance of sanity remaini…

I suspect it has far more to do with status and/or affluence signaling than audio fidelity myself.

As with most hobbies.

Re: How much does it cost to be an audiophile?

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Audiophile & Student checking in here. Most people don't realize that there is gold on craigslist that older crowd is throwing out due to their wives nagging ("These speakers are too big.." etc) I've put together an amazing system using Polk SDA-2b's, Parasound HCA-1200, & Onkyo TS-DX787(as a preamp)(donated) and behringer uca-202 DAC for under 300 dollars. Cables are all monoprice and it blows my mind that people pa…

I rescued a set of Klipsch La Scalas in college (from reuse@) -- one had a busted single woofer, which I replaced for $100, and then win.
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