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Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by ddellacosta »

nephihaha wrote: post #30
beloch wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Red Dwarf is an absolute classic, but I think people of all nations can agree that the American version was better off cancelled. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mlnntKi2no Even the second attempt at it, with Star Trek DS9's Terry Farrell (as Cat), was a bad idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfJsViD9SjM The original was lightning in a bottle.

I have watched the American pilot, and one thing I found curious was that the two female characters were the most interesting (Cat and the Computer played by Terry Farrel and Jane Leeves who were both in major series - Deep Space Nine and Frasier). Holly/Computer has been female for much of the British series and Cat did work as a female character. Contrast with the British show which was very male except for compute…

I agree, Clare Grogan is still who I picture when I think of Kochanski tbh, I loved her energy

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by nephihaha »

JojoFatsani wrote: post #28

There was nothing like Red Dwarf on TF (British or American) back then - a laugh-tracked show that could be simultaneously the most hilarious dry wit, not-so-dry bawdy humor, and a compelling and thought-provoking sci-fi action-adventure all at the same time. I fell off it after they had that comeback season roughly in 2000 where the whole ship got revived. Then I saw a few clips from a later season where everyone wa…

I watched the whole lot thanks to lockdown. I used to like up until series six or so, but had a look at the later ones. Yes, the actors certainly all look more "lived in" nowadays.

The later series/seasons are very uneven, which surprised me. I stopped watching originally around when Chloe Annette's Kochanski was introduced but I was surprised that instead of a steady decline that the quality was very up and down.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by nephihaha »

nullhole wrote: post #12

RIP, thanks for the memories. No sci fi effect has ever given me the same sense of wonder that I got from the shot of the camera slowly travelling over the gigantic ship in the Season 1/2 intro. Btw: @dang : Grant was the co-creator, alongside Doug Naylor, who is still kicking

The intro was actually strangely eerie/bleak. I felt sorry for Lister (I think it is) out there painting the ship. There was kind of a sadness because he had lost pretty much all his friends and you could feel the vastness of space.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by nephihaha »

mrwh wrote: post #3

It's cold outside There's no kind of atmosphere I'm all alone More or less Let me fly Far away from here Fun fun fun In the sun sun sun I want to lie Shipwrecked and comatose Drinking fresh Mango juice Goldfish shoals Nibbling at my toes Fun fun fun In the sun sun sun Fun fun fun In the sun sun sun

For a brief period there it was fashionable to have fish nibbling at your feet (in the 2010s?). Not goldfish shoals although that is probably what Lister wanted to farm in Fiji.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by nephihaha »

ddellacosta wrote: post #31
nephihaha wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have watched the American pilot, and one thing I found curious was that the two female characters were the most interesting (Cat and the Computer played by Terry Farrel and Jane Leeves who were both in major series - Deep Space Nine and Frasier). Holly/Computer has been female for much of the British series and Cat did work as a female character. Contrast with the British show which was very male except for compute…

I agree, Clare Grogan is still who I picture when I think of Kochanski tbh, I loved her energy

Clare Grogan is definitely who I think of. I couldn't really see Chloe Annette being Kochanski, she was miscast and I don't think she got good scripts.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by sbarre »

Anyone else read Rob Grant's book Colony[0]?

It's a pretty funny sci-fi book, similar dry wit.. I picked it up at a yard sale only because it said "from the creator of Red Dwarf" even though I mostly only knew of the show through others..

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_(Grant_novel)

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by kinlan »

nephihaha wrote: post #29
ColinEberhardt wrote: post #9

My random claim to fame; I was the support act (juggler) for Norman Lovett (the red dwarf ships computer), for one night only in the Welsh town of Bangor. What a life I’ve lived.

Yes, I remember him. He briefly had his own show called "I Lovett" or something like that. Also spent time in Bangor back in the mid nineties.

I still spend time in Bangor

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by LeoPanthera »

hermitcrab wrote: post #20

Kryton is one of the greatest characters to ever grace a tv screen.

Robert Llewellyn is just a lovely person in general. He now produces a YouTube/TV show about electric cars, but his outtakes from Red Dwarf are delightful. He stays mostly in character during the outtakes (perhaps that's easy in the suit) and he's very funny.

Some random Red Dwarf outtakes: https://youtu.be/l6VTzq5N0Mo

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