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Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by cole-k »

paul7986 wrote: post #29

Bought my first pair of Meta glasses in Oct 2023 and overall I really enjoying using smart glasses! They are great for quickly/easily capturing life experiences. Also, while traveling or wherever asking and getting information on things your looking at - it's cool & useful. Tho Meta makes trash as my 1st pair died after 14 months of use after a software update and then my 2nd pair only lasted 4 months after some wate…

Are you making a counterpoint to the author's premise that smart glasses are an "intolerable intrusion?"

I'm having trouble understanding the purpose of your comment since it seems like you're just saying the ray ban glasses are bad for a different reason.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by paul7986 »

cole-k wrote: post #31
paul7986 wrote: post #29

Bought my first pair of Meta glasses in Oct 2023 and overall I really enjoying using smart glasses! They are great for quickly/easily capturing life experiences. Also, while traveling or wherever asking and getting information on things your looking at - it's cool & useful. Tho Meta makes trash as my 1st pair died after 14 months of use after a software update and then my 2nd pair only lasted 4 months after some wate…

Are you making a counterpoint to the author's premise that smart glasses are an "intolerable intrusion?" I'm having trouble understanding the purpose of your comment since it seems like you're just saying the ray ban glasses are bad for a different reason.

I love smart glasses they are very useful for people who wear sunglasses and use their phone to take pics & videos.

Of course with all new technology people fight against it. When I wore them on rollercoasters at Cedar Point in 2024 ride attendees said take those off and store them in a locker at the front entrance of the park (that kid / ride attendant hated them). Yet as Feb 2026 Six flags now allows smart glasses to be worn thru all its parks and 7 million have been sold.

Overall I am detailing why they are useful, why I think they will be widely adopted and like many technologies before it those who are against them will adopt them too(its a counter argument here). Sure some creeps will use them and with that in mind Apple has the possible ability to solve that privacy issue as they are a privacy company (all pics and vids taken thru APple glasses faces not in your network are randomize/anonymized).

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by bryanlarsen »

Currently detects via Meta, Essilor or Snap company ID.

So it won't detect my XReal's. I purposefully bought my XReal now because it feels like they might be one of the last models released without cameras.

But theoretically I could have the XReal Eye attachment on my glasses, and could be taking video through that. I don't, but the XReal user next to me might.

Of course the USB wire hanging from my ear probably makes me look suspicious enough already that the warning probably isn't necessary either way...

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by tamimio »

luxuryballs wrote: post #30
tamimio wrote: post #13

Need an iOS. But I think very soon the whole detection won’t be enough, because most people will have glasses, phones, CCTV, etc., I think the best is protecting yourself, so a cloak mask or similar, where for humans it’s barely visible but for machines it blocks you from being scanned or recorded.

an invisibility cloak! crazy times, maybe we can make anti-smart-glasses glasses that detect smart glasses and have an invisible beam that can target and blind the cameras

> anti-smart-glasses glasses that detect smart glasses and have an invisible beam that can target and blind the cameras

I love it! I literally thought of something similar while writing the above comment, something like an EMP that disables all nearby camera sensors for 10min or so.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by luxuryballs »

tamimio wrote: post #34
luxuryballs wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

an invisibility cloak! crazy times, maybe we can make anti-smart-glasses glasses that detect smart glasses and have an invisible beam that can target and blind the cameras

> anti-smart-glasses glasses that detect smart glasses and have an invisible beam that can target and blind the cameras I love it! I literally thought of something similar while writing the above comment, something like an EMP that disables all nearby camera sensors for 10min or so.

I’m thinking it could be active enough to actually obscure the camera recording in real time whenever you are in the frame, like an actual beam that goes into the camera lens making the normal light intake all distorted, so it wouldn’t appear to malfunction or fail, it would just be like a refracting smudge in the feed.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by Etheryte »

tantalor wrote: post #4

I'm a bit torn on this because (at least in the sci-fi utopia stories) when a critical mass of people are recording full time then interpersonal crime and anti-social behavior is strongly discouraged. It's like an honor-based culture at scale.

Firstly, fear and honor are far from being the same thing. Second, we already have this in our society today via smartphones and things have not changed for the better. If anything, society is more torn than ever.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by paul7986 »

paul7986 wrote: post #32
cole-k wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you making a counterpoint to the author's premise that smart glasses are an "intolerable intrusion?" I'm having trouble understanding the purpose of your comment since it seems like you're just saying the ray ban glasses are bad for a different reason.

I love smart glasses they are very useful for people who wear sunglasses and use their phone to take pics & videos. Of course with all new technology people fight against it. When I wore them on rollercoasters at Cedar Point in 2024 ride attendees said take those off and store them in a locker at the front entrance of the park (that kid / ride attendant hated them). Yet as Feb 2026 Six flags now allows smart glasses…

Also noting my disdain for Meta glasses due to their lack of quality and solid customer service Apple will provide.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by zephen »

emptybits wrote: post #8
tantalor wrote: post #4

I'm a bit torn on this because (at least in the sci-fi utopia stories) when a critical mass of people are recording full time then interpersonal crime and anti-social behavior is strongly discouraged. It's like an honor-based culture at scale.

> It's like an honor-based culture at scale. Except the basis of that culture would not be honour, would it? A critical mass of people scrutinizing and reporting others' actions might lead to a compliance-based culture. It's different IMO. i.e. intrinsic motivation to behave well (honour, morality, decency) versus extrinsic motivation to behave well (fear of unpopularity, law enforcement, mob reaction, etc.)

I think you're missing the point. Or, on re-reading, the parent is missing the point.

"Honor culture" or "Culture of honor" is the term for people who are thin-skinned, quick to offense, and worried more about appearances than substance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_honor_(Southern_Uni...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

It's all about a shame-based society. When someone is made to feel ashamed, they might lash out. It's practically the opposite of guilt, which is directed inwardly.

At the margins, a shamed person might commit mass murder, while a guilty person might commit suicide.

Before you get to the margin, both guilty people and shamed people might alter their behavior in beneficial ways, but they do it for subtly different reasons.

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by zephen »

jibal wrote: post #20
tantalor wrote: post #4

I'm a bit torn on this because (at least in the sci-fi utopia stories) when a critical mass of people are recording full time then interpersonal crime and anti-social behavior is strongly discouraged. It's like an honor-based culture at scale.

That's the opposite of honor-based, and those stories are warnings about going down that path.

"Honor-based" has a specific meaning, and it is not good.

If the parent is torn about whether this is good or bad, they're really not paying attention.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_honor_(Southern_Uni...

Re: Nearby Glasses

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Post by pibaker »

emptybits wrote: post #8
tantalor wrote: post #4

I'm a bit torn on this because (at least in the sci-fi utopia stories) when a critical mass of people are recording full time then interpersonal crime and anti-social behavior is strongly discouraged. It's like an honor-based culture at scale.

> It's like an honor-based culture at scale. Except the basis of that culture would not be honour, would it? A critical mass of people scrutinizing and reporting others' actions might lead to a compliance-based culture. It's different IMO. i.e. intrinsic motivation to behave well (honour, morality, decency) versus extrinsic motivation to behave well (fear of unpopularity, law enforcement, mob reaction, etc.)

It's like how people misunderstand trust. "I trust open source software because I can review the code." No you don't. If you need to review the code then you are already not trusting it. Same deal with "honor" — the entire point of honor is you don't need eyes everywhere to look for misbehavior. You trust people to do the right thing. There is no trust in a police state.
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