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The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by pjmlp »

dangus wrote: post #29
pjmlp wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is the thing, I still remember when there was no recording, what happens in the venue stays in the venue, or gets talked with others that shared the experience.

That was in the era of $10 shows. If I am paying $700 to see Lady Gaga you bet your ass I’m taking some pictures. I actually find k-pop shows somewhat refreshing because there’s zero negative stigma for wanting to record pictures or video. I can easily tell that Gen Z/Alpha has no problem enjoying themselves and even dancing while recording a video. If a phone is blocking your view the venue is designed wrong, or you…

For what, to say "I was there"?

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by mellosouls »

rayiner wrote: post #28
mellosouls wrote: post #5

A non-paywalled discussion on the subject from a year ago: Nightclub stickers over smartphone rule divides the dancefloor (85 points, 91 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825 I've never understood the appeal of so-called "dance" events. Crowds of thousands like sardines swaying-at-best to the DJ being treated as a rockstar but without the talent and entertainment as far as I can see. Note: this isn'…

My seven year old boy likes to spin in circles. I think he likes the stimulation from the inner ear fluid sloshing around. Dancing in a club seems similar.

(Parent comment) Me too! But that's my point, you can't spin or do anything at these events, except for small pockets at the fringes; dancers are outliers now.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

rumori wrote: post #3

Berghain puts stickers on your phone cameras, it’s pretty non intrusive while substantially improving the party experience. I didn’t see a single phone in the air on the dancefloor. It was quite refreshing, felt like partying in the 2000s.

This is mentioned in the article:

> More clubs have also been instituting “no phones” policies to reclaim the dance floor’s social energy. Venues including Signal, a small club that opened last year in Brooklyn’s East Williamsburg neighborhood, and recent addition Refuge, located just around the corner, cover all phone cameras with a sticker. Other larger, established venues like House of Yes and Elsewhere have also banned the use of phones inside.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by LeanderK »

mellosouls wrote: post #5

A non-paywalled discussion on the subject from a year ago: Nightclub stickers over smartphone rule divides the dancefloor (85 points, 91 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825 I've never understood the appeal of so-called "dance" events. Crowds of thousands like sardines swaying-at-best to the DJ being treated as a rockstar but without the talent and entertainment as far as I can see. Note: this isn'…

you know that people really go there to dance and enjoy the music?

A friend of mine is a professional (modern) dancer, so has as much credentials as you can, and she enjoys dancing in berlins nightlife. She finds the space for expression and creativity in her movement, in tune with the music. Of course, the is not much physical space, which is how the dance-movements evolved as they have (e.g you never spin and you feet never really leave the space they are on). But this is part of the culture, and not a problem. If you can't find it then that's your problem, but doesn't mean that other's can not freely express themselves there.

There's more dance-events. Not sure where you are, but you can usually go to a bachata night as it's quite trendy now, northern soul is also getting some revivial. There's also more disco-oriented events usually at various LGBTQ+-parties, I think especially italo-disco is a lot of fun. You can just go out and dance. Lindy Hop also has a solid community around the world.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by krisoft »

retired wrote: post #18
phrotoma wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went to a show at Fabric in London during Kubecon last spring and they did the same thing. I still saw the odd person who peeled it off taking selfies or pics of friends inside but that was definitely the exception.

Perhaps it can be enforced with a type of laser that doesn’t damage the human eye but completely obliterates a phone camera. As long as you keep the sticker on nothing happens to your phone.

> a type of laser that doesn’t damage the human eye but completely obliterates a phone camera

If we are asking for impossible things why make it so scifi coded? I would much prefer cute bunny unicorns who suddenly grow fangs and bite people who are taking pictures. They are both equaly realistic but the bunny unicorns are nicer to think of.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by tw04 »

bjackman wrote: post #30

Er... Source for this claim? If there are people filming on their dancefloor you're in a shitty club. OK, so the author and a handful of people they quite (including some global superstars who obviously don't represent any kind of norm) seem to be finding themselves in shitty clubs more often than they used to. And therefore we conclude all clubs are shitty now? Nightlife is the least heterogeneous and least globalis…

We have Mets glasses now, you don’t even have to pull a phone out.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by layer8 »

bjackman wrote: post #30

Er... Source for this claim? If there are people filming on their dancefloor you're in a shitty club. OK, so the author and a handful of people they quite (including some global superstars who obviously don't represent any kind of norm) seem to be finding themselves in shitty clubs more often than they used to. And therefore we conclude all clubs are shitty now? Nightlife is the least heterogeneous and least globalis…

Maybe read the article? It’s more nuanced.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by bpavuk »

I remember being on a concert relatively recently, a few years ago. nearly everyone had their phones up, mine was in a pocket. no one made a single movement that resembled dance, everyone just... stood still. that differed by a great measure from several concerts I attended circa 2018-19.

on both music fests, I was in flow. I've been dancing - it's a usual thing all humans naturally do when they hear rhythm that resonates with them unless they consciously resist dancing for one reason or another. though, this time, no one joined me. people just made space around me and pointed their cameras at me, which created a ton of unease and I eventually stopped. it was enough to get viral in local Telegrams, but I had no joy in that. in the moment, I wanted to shout, "duh, why aren't you all dancing? put down your goddamn cameras, you can always scroll later!"

phones, primarily due to their current addictive implementation, are such a killjoy. I hope that one day, devices like Clicks Communicator will change this.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by blinding-streak »

Bloomberg is an interesting news outlet. My whole life I thought of them as purely financial-based reporting. But I've seen lots of lifestyle stuff from them too. And usually well written and interesting angles.

Maybe journalism isn't totally dead yet.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by bpavuk »

blinding-streak wrote: post #39

Bloomberg is an interesting news outlet. My whole life I thought of them as purely financial-based reporting. But I've seen lots of lifestyle stuff from them too. And usually well written and interesting angles. Maybe journalism isn't totally dead yet.

> Maybe journalism isn't totally dead yet.

it never was, nor will ever be :)

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