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Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

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Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, is it? Why do you think? I'm not saying it ain't so, but I wonder what signs I'm missing. I couldn't smell this one. Probably because, fundamentally, I find myself agreeing with it. I'm sure this contributes to me be being somewhat tone deaf.

American em-dashes to start ...

That is hardly a smoking gun—I typed one just now.

Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

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post #17

I was too young to vote in the referendum. I’m incredibly angry about having lost freedom of movement. If the UK by some miracle rejoins the EU I will make the jump to Europe the very same day. Still looking for a way out in the meantime. The UK just keeps kicking young people down. The boomers voting against our interests are whipping us into working to pay for their triple locked pensions.

Worth mentioning that 16-year-olds will be able to vote in the next general election. Hopefully they will use that vote.

Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

#34

Many may change position when they grow up Also young people always blame last gen for whatever, so expects -8 ~ 0 years old would vote for exit again…

Pretty dismissive ("when they grow up") of the group of people in the 16-24 year old range. These are not children; most of that group is 18 and over. You imply noise but there is clearly some signal in this result.

Read it as "when they get older" if that makes you feel better. It's known that people are more likely to switch from liberal to conservatives when they get older than vice versa.

Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

#35
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obvious LLM comment, so are the other recent ones.

Hmm, is it? Why do you think? I'm not saying it ain't so, but I wonder what signs I'm missing. I couldn't smell this one. Probably because, fundamentally, I find myself agreeing with it. I'm sure this contributes to me be being somewhat tone deaf.

Looking up about Erasmus+ it didn't start until a year after Brexit finally took place, so it can't be really called a loss.

Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obvious LLM comment, so are the other recent ones.

Hmm, is it? Why do you think? I'm not saying it ain't so, but I wonder what signs I'm missing. I couldn't smell this one. Probably because, fundamentally, I find myself agreeing with it. I'm sure this contributes to me be being somewhat tone deaf.

> "not just X; it's Y"

...is a typical tell-tale cadence in the current breed of LLMs.

The tell-tale signs change over time, but this one is very obvious.

Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

#38
Regardless of the value of Brexit, people tend to be biased against things that have happened or are around them when things are bad.

Like when people are against a president if the economy isn't doing well, regardless of if the alternative candidate would've been better.

This also isn't an issue thats being campaigned on. If there was another vote to join the EU, and people got flooded with anti-eu messaging specifically targeted at the demographic, I'd bet that number would drop.

Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

#39
post #17

I was too young to vote in the referendum. I’m incredibly angry about having lost freedom of movement. If the UK by some miracle rejoins the EU I will make the jump to Europe the very same day. Still looking for a way out in the meantime. The UK just keeps kicking young people down. The boomers voting against our interests are whipping us into working to pay for their triple locked pensions.

You have a way out... you are allowed to live and work in Ireland. Stay there for a few years (I forget how many) and apply for an Irish ( = EU) passport

Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

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post #36

65+ is the only age group in which >50% still believe Brexit was a good choice.

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Help me understand your thinking. I was very against Brexit (and still am). What is there to be gained, in your opinion?

In my view, you traded being one of the leading voices in what is increasingly shaping up to be one of the world's superpowers for being a somewhat isolated middle power, nostalgic for its former glory.

Why would that be worth it?

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