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EU mandates replaceable batteries by 2027 (2023)

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Re: EU mandates replaceable batteries by 2027 (2023)

#31

Lets see how long it takes this time until someone shows up and calls the EU a nanny state.

As soon as Australians and Canadians who have their governments captured by big interests and don't want to admit it wake up, no doubt

It's 9pm in Australia right now mate, and I have no idea what we're supposed to be doing? Not liking this? Why?

Re: EU mandates replaceable batteries by 2027 (2023)

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As someone who does electronic repairs I welcome this. There are too many devices where the battery is the first point of failure and it is glued in. The number of batteries I could only remove with hot air and heat due to the battery being glued in is too damn high. Heat for removal works but is always like defusing a inextinguishable bomb and takes much more time than it should. I also have rarely seen a design whe…

Gluing batteries solved the old issue where you would drop your phone and it would shut down.

That is a solved issue and has mainly to do with a badly designed connector and has been resolved since the late 2000s. Glued in batteries don't use any other connector than batteries that are glued in. And if your case isn't designed like shit a drop should not open it.

Try it with a modern Fairphone for example. I had one for years and not a single time the back lid fell off or the battery disconnected. I had a couple of batteries die in phones tho. General point: If you argue with people who have more experience on an issue than you, bring the receipts and red-team your own statement before you make it. Everything else doesn't really shine a good light on you.

Re: EU mandates replaceable batteries by 2027 (2023)

#34

The replaceable battery yes.. but the buried lede imo is the material recovery targets. EU imports basically 100% of its lithium and cobalt ( https://rmis.jrc.ec.europa.eu/rmp/Lithium ). Mandating high recycling rates for exactly those materials is industrial policy in an environmental costume. Same pattern as their payments regulation ( https://philippdubach.com/posts/europes-24-trillion-payment-... ), frame soverei…

I mean, it's not really a costume. This is a case where a shrewd industrial policy genuinely goes hand-in-hand with what's best for the environment. Win-win.

Re: EU mandates replaceable batteries by 2027 (2023)

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And noscript/basic (x)html for web sites? They broke them to force the usage of whatng cartel web engines (or they were incompetent and/or malicious).

At least on critical sites.

GAFAM and big tech do not like protocols and file formats simple and able to do good enough job that stable in time, because you would not need the software they control.

Re: EU mandates replaceable batteries by 2027 (2023)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As soon as Australians and Canadians who have their governments captured by big interests and don't want to admit it wake up, no doubt

It's 9pm in Australia right now mate, and I have no idea what we're supposed to be doing? Not liking this? Why?

No it's not, it's 6pm!

Re: EU mandates replaceable batteries by 2027 (2023)

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iPhone batteries are already replaceable, albeit most people have to pay Apple to do it. Does this count as replaceable under this mandate, or is there an expectation that batteries must be replaceable by end-consumers on their own? Any requirements for what level of skill and tooling end-consumers are expected to have access to, such as specialized screwdrivers and re-waterproofing adhesives?

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