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Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by mapontosevenths »

tetris11 wrote: post #24
mapontosevenths wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cory Doctorow wrote a story ~20 years ago about how the first sentient machines would be spam bots because their job is to pass as human, and anti-spam systems provide competitive evolutionary pressure. He may not be too far off.

This one? https://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocke...

I think that's the one. I was a bit off on the timing, it's not 20 yet. Great read either way.

From the story:

“Spam-filters, actually. Once they became self-modifying, spam-filters and spam-bots got into a war to see which could act more human, and since their failures invoked a human judgement about whether their material were convincingly human, it was like a trillion Turing-tests from which they could learn. From there came the first machine-intelligence algorithms, and then my kind.”

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by smusamashah »

rdmuser wrote: post #2

A new more grounded list focused on specifically blocking content farms and similar low quality sites. A nice alternative to this very broad anti ai list: https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist Edit: Oh I should mention I found it through reddit and there is some good discussion there where they describe how they find stuff etc: https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1r9uo3j/autom...

So there is a spreadsheet of websites. That is very interesting. There was an article here sometime ago about a media group who have so many super SEOd websites. They all have common footer text. I searched and added as many as I could find in uBlacklist. I have a gist listing them and how I searched for them. You might find that useful.

Edit: https://gist.github.com/SMUsamaShah/6573b27441d99a0a0c792431...

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by dawnerd »

flkiwi wrote: post #13
rdmuser wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I find that I prefer badly written english or auto-translated stuff written in languages foreign to me over ai generated or even just ai polished works I've seen. There is just so much more character, depth and variance there vs ultra ai generic or slop text. That being said this project seems focused on content farms not people who just need a little help writing so this whole conversation is a bit of a s…

One of my coworkers is EXTREMELY capable but functionally almost illiterate. He’s recently discovered that he can put an idea in Copilot and have it generate an email. So now instead of brief, correct, but difficult to parse emails we receive 20-paragraph, bulleted, formatted OpenAI slop. It’s been a very strange thing to see, like someone getting extraordinarily bad cosmetic surgery.

Sam, and when you ask them a deeper question about it on a call they usually have no idea. It’s making people very lazy.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by wolvoleo »

flkiwi wrote: post #13
rdmuser wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I find that I prefer badly written english or auto-translated stuff written in languages foreign to me over ai generated or even just ai polished works I've seen. There is just so much more character, depth and variance there vs ultra ai generic or slop text. That being said this project seems focused on content farms not people who just need a little help writing so this whole conversation is a bit of a s…

One of my coworkers is EXTREMELY capable but functionally almost illiterate. He’s recently discovered that he can put an idea in Copilot and have it generate an email. So now instead of brief, correct, but difficult to parse emails we receive 20-paragraph, bulleted, formatted OpenAI slop. It’s been a very strange thing to see, like someone getting extraordinarily bad cosmetic surgery.

Yeah I hate it when people do that and I always call them out on it.

Unfortunately our company is trying to be "AI First" so they'll just point to that and continue their bullshit.

Our company literally promotes AI slop over personally made content even if it's mediocre crap. All they care about is rising usage numbers of things like copilot in office.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by mrweasel »

duskdozer wrote: post #14
lifthrasiir wrote: post #3

Not necessarily disagreeing the whole principle... > All I hear is skill issue. Imagine needing an AI to write stuff. Grammarly users (and underrepresented non-English speakers) would complain.

If you don't know English and you want to write English anyway, please just use a machine translator.

From experience: If you don't know Danish, please don't ever use machine translators to translate from English. Regardless of what some people may think, they make mistakes, so many mistakes.

I get why it's tempting, good translators are expensive, and few and far between. A friend of my is a professional translator and she's not exactly in need of work, but a lot of customers look at her prices and opt for machine translations instead and the result not always impressive. Errors range from wrong words, bad sentence structure to an inability to correctly translate cultural references.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by tclancy »

QuadmasterXLII wrote: post #10
lifthrasiir wrote: post #3

Not necessarily disagreeing the whole principle... > All I hear is skill issue. Imagine needing an AI to write stuff. Grammarly users (and underrepresented non-English speakers) would complain.

There’s not a single group who’s ever been told skill issue that didn’t complain

Sure, but there also plenty of times “get gud!” is used for gate keeping. Life is on a continuum, man.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by quiet35 »

I like the idea and even considered contributing to the list, but this stopped me:

> NAQ (Never Asked Questions)

> My website is on your list!

> Cry about it.

That's quite a suspicious attitude. Clearly the maintainer believes he is infallible. I understand the emotions behind this, but this is not how a public blacklist should be maintained.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by embedding-shape »

mrweasel wrote: post #35
duskdozer wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't know English and you want to write English anyway, please just use a machine translator.

From experience: If you don't know Danish, please don't ever use machine translators to translate from English. Regardless of what some people may think, they make mistakes, so many mistakes. I get why it's tempting, good translators are expensive, and few and far between. A friend of my is a professional translator and she's not exactly in need of work, but a lot of customers look at her prices and opt for machine t…

Right, makes sense for Danes, or other population where English knowledge is basically ubiquitous. But I'm think it might look differently in other places, if the choice is between "Badly translated but I can understand 95% of it" and "In a language I don't understand at all, maybe 1% I could figure out", then the choice might be a bit different.

Re: AI uBlock Blacklist

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Post by OGEnthusiast »

flkiwi wrote: post #13
rdmuser wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I find that I prefer badly written english or auto-translated stuff written in languages foreign to me over ai generated or even just ai polished works I've seen. There is just so much more character, depth and variance there vs ultra ai generic or slop text. That being said this project seems focused on content farms not people who just need a little help writing so this whole conversation is a bit of a s…

One of my coworkers is EXTREMELY capable but functionally almost illiterate. He’s recently discovered that he can put an idea in Copilot and have it generate an email. So now instead of brief, correct, but difficult to parse emails we receive 20-paragraph, bulleted, formatted OpenAI slop. It’s been a very strange thing to see, like someone getting extraordinarily bad cosmetic surgery.

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