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Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

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Re: Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

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Post by wang_li »

A couple of the stories where I feel I have expertise I found to be a bit objectionable. The title/headline was some clever or unexpected thing, but upon reading it turns out there is nothing supporting the headline.

E.g. "Integer Comparison is not Deterministic", in the C standard you can't do math on pointers from different allocations. The result in the article is obvious if you know that.

Also, in the Logistic Map in 8-Bit. There is a statement

> While implementing Algorithm 1 in modern systems is trivial, doing so in earlier computers and languages was not so straightforward.

Microsoft BASIC did floating point. Every 8-bit of the era was able to do this calculation easily. I did it on my Franklin ACE 1000 in 1988 in basic while reading the book Chaos.

I suppose what I'm saying is the premise of the articles seem to be click-baity and I find that off putting.

Re: Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

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Post by gynvael »

wang_li wrote: post #31

A couple of the stories where I feel I have expertise I found to be a bit objectionable. The title/headline was some clever or unexpected thing, but upon reading it turns out there is nothing supporting the headline. E.g. "Integer Comparison is not Deterministic", in the C standard you can't do math on pointers from different allocations. The result in the article is obvious if you know that. Also, in the Logistic Ma…

You're right.

In general when selecting articles we assume that the reader is an expert in some field(s), but not necessarily in the field covered by this article. As such, things which are simple for an expert in the specific domain, can still be surprisingly to learn for folks who aren't experts in that domain.

What I'm saying is, that we don't try to be a cutting edge scientific journal — rather than that, we publish even the smallest trick that we decide someone may not know about and find it fun/interesting to learn.

The consequence of that is that, yeah, some article have a bit clickbaity titles for some of the readers.

On the flip side, as we know from meme-t-shirts, there are only 2 things hard in computer science, and naming is first on the list ;)

P.S. Sounds like you should write some cool article btw :)

Re: Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

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Post by yomismoaqui »

maremmano wrote: post #16

I like this magazine vibe, it reminds me of the good ol' l33t zines from the late '80s and '90s. However, if I can offer a suggestion, I'd also pair the technical articles with a little more punky, down-to-earth stuff. They were cheerful, informal, and full of that cheeky, irreverent, cocky smart-ass humor, plus this mysterious edge that made them absolutely magnetic to me. Life just wasn’t so heavy back then.

Sadly I don't know if that kind of 80s/90s irreverence would go well with today's sensitivities.

Re: Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

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Post by big_toast »

pixelpoet wrote: post #17
maremmano wrote: post #16

I like this magazine vibe, it reminds me of the good ol' l33t zines from the late '80s and '90s. However, if I can offer a suggestion, I'd also pair the technical articles with a little more punky, down-to-earth stuff. They were cheerful, informal, and full of that cheeky, irreverent, cocky smart-ass humor, plus this mysterious edge that made them absolutely magnetic to me. Life just wasn’t so heavy back then.

like Mondo 2000 :)

Wow cool. I have not heard of Mondo 2000 reading hn for almost 20 years. And did not realize Boing Boing was so old. Makes me wonder what else existed.

My family had a bunch of "Dr. Dobb’s Journal of Computer Calisthenics & Orthodontia"[0] and similar things (BYTE, COMPUTE!). (Which seem slightly dryer, but maybe more like Paged Out.)

[0]:https://archive.org/details/dr_dobbs_journal_vol_01/mode/2up

Re: Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

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Post by j2kun »

I took a peak at "Compiler Education Deserves a Revolution" and thought, wtf is this talking about?

It claims clang is NOT "a pipeline that runs each pass of the compiler over your entire code before shuffling its output along to the next pass."

What I think the author is talking about is primarily AST parsing and clangd, where as "any compiler tome" is still highly relevant to the actual work of building a compiler.

Re: Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

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Post by bayindirh »

Graziano_M wrote: post #20
bayindirh wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Initial impressions says no about being that file a polyglot. If you like polyglot files, see https://www.alchemistowl.org/pocorgtfo/

Oh yeah. I have the paperback 'bible'. I don't think that that one is a polyglot, though.

Can’t you use the tome as a cluebat?

I believe it’s a dual use tool, hence a polyglot.

Re: Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

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Post by skeeter2020 »

yomismoaqui wrote: post #34
maremmano wrote: post #16

I like this magazine vibe, it reminds me of the good ol' l33t zines from the late '80s and '90s. However, if I can offer a suggestion, I'd also pair the technical articles with a little more punky, down-to-earth stuff. They were cheerful, informal, and full of that cheeky, irreverent, cocky smart-ass humor, plus this mysterious edge that made them absolutely magnetic to me. Life just wasn’t so heavy back then.

Sadly I don't know if that kind of 80s/90s irreverence would go well with today's sensitivities.

that's the point! we got so concerned with creating a safe space for everyone that can't possible offend we lost site of the community building intent. The crux is to have people self-select without offending them, but IMO it's not a binary goal.

Re: Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

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Post by neandrake »

amelius wrote: post #5

> Query based compilers are all the rage: Rust, Swift, Kotlin, Haskell, and Clang all structure their compilers as queries. I've never heard of this. It's a pity the article doesn't go into details.

Finding this one-page was great! It gave me a new term I didn't have before that leads to all sorts of new materials to go rifling through.

Re: Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

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Post by [deleted] »

yomismoaqui wrote: post #34
maremmano wrote: post #16

I like this magazine vibe, it reminds me of the good ol' l33t zines from the late '80s and '90s. However, if I can offer a suggestion, I'd also pair the technical articles with a little more punky, down-to-earth stuff. They were cheerful, informal, and full of that cheeky, irreverent, cocky smart-ass humor, plus this mysterious edge that made them absolutely magnetic to me. Life just wasn’t so heavy back then.

Sadly I don't know if that kind of 80s/90s irreverence would go well with today's sensitivities.

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