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How AI is affecting productivity and jobs in Europe

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Re: How AI is affecting productivity and jobs in Europe

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Post by NitpickLawyer »

dakolli wrote: post #22
nivcmo wrote: post #21

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You trust these stochastic text/slot machines for scheduling and follow-ups? Human intention is important for both of these. triage and reminders I can see, but if you send me an llm generated follow up, I'm just going to assume you don't care.

> if you send me an llm generated follow up, I'm just going to assume you don't care.

Ironically you just replied to an automated message on a forum and didn't realise :) (hint: click on the user, go to their comment history, you'll see the pattern)

Re: How AI is affecting productivity and jobs in Europe

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Post by hackit2 »

8cvor6j844qw_d6 wrote: post #10

Its depressing when people are hearing managers are openly asking all employees to pitch in ideals for AI in order to reduce employee headcount. For those hearing this at work, better prepare an exit plan.

I've all-ways asked the managers can you kindly disclose all confidential business information. In which they obviously respond with condescending remarks. Then I respond with, then how am I going to give you a answer without all the knowledge of how the business runs and operates? You can go away and figure out what is going to make work for the business then you can delegate what you want me to do, it is the reason why you pay me money.

Re: How AI is affecting productivity and jobs in Europe

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Post by raincole »

Wobbles42 wrote: post #29
windows2020 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One process redesign that may be considered a moat for AI is employees intending to communicate through a sentence or two first passing the text into their AI of choice and asking it to elaborate. On the other end the colleague uses their AI to summarize the email into a bullet point or two. It's challenging for those that don't use AI to keep up.

Imagine explaining AI to 1997 you. "It's like PKZIP, but backwards"

Easy - "It's like in the movie, but the voice is actually human like rather than robotic."

Re: How AI is affecting productivity and jobs in Europe

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Post by realusername »

irjustin wrote: post #5

FWIW, these studies are too early. Large orgs have very sensitive data privacy considerations and they're only right now going through the evaluation cycles. Case in point, this past week, I learned Deloitte only recently gave the approval in picking Gemini as their AI platform. Rollout hasn't even begun yet which you can imagine is going to take a while. To say "AI is failing to deliver" because only 4% efficiency i…

Looking at the study, +4% is what they get when they chose to adopt AI, not overall.

Re: How AI is affecting productivity and jobs in Europe

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Post by aurareturn »

m463 wrote: post #2

I wonder if web searches used to be pretty productive, then declined as sponsored results and SEO degraded things. Nowadays an ai assist with a web search usually eliminates the search altogether and gives you a clear answer right away. for example, "how much does a ford f-150 cost" will give you something ballpark in a second, compared to annoying "research" to find the answer shrouded in corporate obfuscation.

   then declined as sponsored results and SEO degraded things
It didn't decline because of this. It declined because of a general decade long trend of websites becoming paywalled and hidden behind a login. The best and most useful data is often inaccessible to crawlers.

In the 2000s, everything was open because of the ad driven model. Then ad blockers, mobile subscription model, and the dominance of a few apps such as Instagram and Youtube sucking up all the ad revenue made having an open web unsustainable.

How many Hacker News style open forums are left? Most open forums are dead because discussions happen on login platforms like Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, X, Discord, etc. The only reason HN is alive is because HN doesn't make need to make money. It's an ad for Y Combinator.

SEO only became an issue when all there is for crawlers is SEO content instead of true genuine content.

Re: How AI is affecting productivity and jobs in Europe

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Post by vjk800 »

irjustin wrote: post #5

FWIW, these studies are too early. Large orgs have very sensitive data privacy considerations and they're only right now going through the evaluation cycles. Case in point, this past week, I learned Deloitte only recently gave the approval in picking Gemini as their AI platform. Rollout hasn't even begun yet which you can imagine is going to take a while. To say "AI is failing to deliver" because only 4% efficiency i…

Yeah. We are only just beginning to get the most out of the internet, and the WWW was invented almost 40 years ago - other parts of it even earlier. Adoption takes time, not to speak of the fact that the technology itself is still developing quickly and might see more and more use cases when it gets better.

Re: How AI is affecting productivity and jobs in Europe

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Post by gyulai »

> The EU trails the US not only in the absolute number of AI-related patents but also in AI specialisation – the share of AI patents relative to total patents.

E.U. patent law takes a very different attitude towards software patents than the U.S. Even if that wasn't the case: “Specialisation” means that no innovation unrelated to AI gets mind share, investment, patent applications. And that's somehow a good thing? Not something you can just throw out there as a presupposition without explaining your reasoning.

Re: How AI is affecting productivity and jobs in Europe

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Post by Antibabelic »

monkpit wrote: post #15
m463 wrote: post #2

I wonder if web searches used to be pretty productive, then declined as sponsored results and SEO degraded things. Nowadays an ai assist with a web search usually eliminates the search altogether and gives you a clear answer right away. for example, "how much does a ford f-150 cost" will give you something ballpark in a second, compared to annoying "research" to find the answer shrouded in corporate obfuscation.

The turning point was around when google stopped honoring Boolean ops and quotation marks

When did this happen? I do exact searches on Google almost every day and it seems to honor the quotation marks just fine for me.

Re: How AI is affecting productivity and jobs in Europe

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Post by shakna »

irjustin wrote: post #5

FWIW, these studies are too early. Large orgs have very sensitive data privacy considerations and they're only right now going through the evaluation cycles. Case in point, this past week, I learned Deloitte only recently gave the approval in picking Gemini as their AI platform. Rollout hasn't even begun yet which you can imagine is going to take a while. To say "AI is failing to deliver" because only 4% efficiency i…

> Rollout hasn't even begun yet which you can

If rollout at Deloitte has not yet begun... How on earth did this clusterfuck [0] happen?

> Deloitte’s member firm in Australia will pay the government a partial refund for a $290,000 report that contained alleged AI-generated errors, including references to non-existent academic research papers and a fabricated quote from a federal court judgment.

[0] https://fortune.com/2025/10/07/deloitte-ai-australia-governm...

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