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Stephen Colbert going down swinging

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> I wish we could have put it on the show, where no one would’ve watched it So true, the Streisand effect in full view. I think it got 95 million views on youtube. If just on the show with no comment from the US admin, probably would not break 5 million. This admin is doing more harm to itself trying to censor people than if they ignored Colbert.

Does the Streisand effect keep working if censorship continues? Or do people lose interest?

It increases. In Germany an ministry wanted to hide an document about glyphosat, this caused many people to request access to it that an judge ordered to make it public.

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> The Federal government is enforcing long-standing statutes. You forgot the very important word "selectively". They are selectively enforcing long-standing statutes, which is probably illegal and is 100% obvious corruption.

For my entire life I've never seen the feds do anything other than selective enforcement. See the latest disclosures RE: Zorro ranch and little saint James as recent examples.

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Kind of fascinating that the first couple comments to be posted both start with a declaration of the author’s opinion of Colbert. I read it as a pretty straightforward acknowledgment that we’ve reached a point in public discourse where people pay at least as much attention to who is making a point as we do to the actual point being made. I wonder if finding common ground is even possible as long as that kind of tacit…

Amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas.

“Plato is my friend, but truth is a better friend.”

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Flagged? This is only Voldemort-adjacent.

Yeah, I feel like this is a case where we should be able to flag the flaggers.

Or at least show them a version of the site that hides political posts to save their techbro sensibilities.

I get why some politics is toxic, but this is so indefensible, it isn't likely to start a flamewar.

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Amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas.

“Plato is my friend, but truth is a better friend.”

The messenger changes; but the truth doesn't. That is the point of the phrase. It's a jab at the GP's flawed logic.

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I was actually thinking the opposite. I sent my wife this text message: Nonsense world when a comedian doing a late night show is the person willing to say something It's not his job I'm glad he's doing it, but this is like watching the McDonald's workers Narcan people as part of their daily tasks For reference she worked as a manager at McDonald's and would regularly have to deal with people ODing in the drive throu…

Corporate doesn't realize that forcing people to do nothing and watch others die might be bad for morale? Corporate doesn't realize that people regularly dying in their drive through without assistance is going to be an enormously negative PR hit if it ever comes out? Corporate doesn't even realize that people dying in the drive through is going to leave their drive through plugged for a long period of time? I am app…

The drive through has a two lane system so cars can just go around.

The EMT would show up and drag them out of the car then a tow truck would come and get the car.

Most "regular" employees are happy to see the drive through disabled it makes their job much easier. Most restaurants place a small construction cone out to block one of the lanes to reduce customers as it's too much work.

The franchise owners are in a strange spot. I have some compassion and understanding for them, but also have helped build bots they use to submit fake reports to corporate to make their numbers go up or keep their numbers from going down too much. It's fascinating to be paid by a company to perform work they had to be hidden from other layers and that is fundamentally against the interest long term to any of them. I required a contract signed by them to ensure this bullshit isn't my problem. Again, I got the receipts if anyone wants!

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This is just not accurate. Privious to this censorship-push since 1983 there had been a carve out for talks shows and it correspondly has not been enforced since the Regan administration. If it was, Fox News would be in violation 24/7.

Fox News doesn't use public airwaves as I understand it.

Two relevant things: 1. Fox news has a whole network of affiliates who do broadcast. 2. the FCC regulates cable, satillite, telephony and internet in addition to broadcast.

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> The Federal government is enforcing long-standing statutes. You forgot the very important word "selectively". They are selectively enforcing long-standing statutes, which is probably illegal and is 100% obvious corruption.

To my friends, everything; to my enemies, the law.

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> I wish we could have put it on the show, where no one would’ve watched it So true, the Streisand effect in full view. I think it got 95 million views on youtube. If just on the show with no comment from the US admin, probably would not break 5 million. This admin is doing more harm to itself trying to censor people than if they ignored Colbert.

Does the Streisand effect keep working if censorship continues? Or do people lose interest?

I would guess It depends on how thoroughly the organization doing the censorship can exert control over information.

For example, I’ve been pretty impressed by the extent to which the Chinese government is able to influence public discourse within its borders when they want to. But China is also home to over 90% of the world’s Chinese speakers, and it has its own domestic social media industry with very few users from outside the country, the Great Firewall, less of a culture of anti-authoritarianism, etc.

I’m not sure how feasible it would be for the US to get to a comparable position. The US is nowhere close to being a supermajority of the world’s English speakers, and it might be hard for the government to impose an isolationist policy on the country’s tech industry without inciting a revolt by its tech oligarchs.

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