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Post by assimpleaspossi »

syntaxing wrote: post #15
assimpleaspossi wrote: post #11

>>The recipients of the mail campaign aren't passive in this story; on the contrary, some played a reverse card, informing of issues... Yeah, this gets me. Grammar is grating to me and I used to call out when someone would write "Me and my friend..." only to get attacked in response as if grammar matters to no one.

It doesn’t though. If you think about it, improper English and slang strongly effects cultural and social bonding. I too would feel the opposite party is pretentious if someone is correcting me for a casual conversation. If it’s a professional relationship, that’s different.

And so it begins.

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Post by PollardsRho »

theasisa wrote: post #8
zjp wrote: post #5

"English being my second language, I curse it everyday and wish it could be more like, say, Hungarian, in which such a thing as a spelling bee would be unthinkable." I love this about English! We are the most prolific word thieves of all time. We even stole an entire grammatically complete sentence from French ("Je ne sais quoi"). If you want English to be more like Hungarian, start inserting Hungarian words into sen…

> If you want English to be more like Hungarian, start inserting Hungarian words into sentences otherwise written in English I've been doing something like this with Finnish (which is in the same language family as Hungary) - I use Finnish colloquialism but directly translated into English. Things like "going ass first up a tree" (meaning doing something in a sub-optimal way) or "better on the ground than in the devi…

A lot of expressions in English started out as calques, outputs that process: you're paving the way!

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Post by westurner »

londons_explore wrote: post #18
Antibabelic wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it otherwise that easy to confuse your writing with an LLM's? What if they deliberately start including spelling mistakes into slop pipelines, as the post points out?

Met a chap who wrote exactly like an AI all over reddit. Had 10k+ posts going back a decade, all in the same helpful style with em-dashes. Telephoned him to check he was a real person. Turns out that certain really helpful reddit posters respond in exactly the same way AI companies wish their models would respond, and the RLHF process really reinforces their mannerisms despite being 0.00001% of the total training dat…

I have had this experience.

My posts are link dense because citations are worth sharing.

It's really frustrating because they're half-assedly alleging in ignorance when I'm taking the time to do something more like actual research and sharing.

I don't want to assume it's an inadequacy or an inferiority self-soothing response.

Perhaps more troubling than AI replacing actual critical thought is "that's AI so it's bunk" replacing actual dissent and argumentation.

Someday I'll compare occasional archives of my outbound communications to see what's been flagged and censored for example "because that's AI".

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Post by swores »

theasisa wrote: post #8
zjp wrote: post #5

"English being my second language, I curse it everyday and wish it could be more like, say, Hungarian, in which such a thing as a spelling bee would be unthinkable." I love this about English! We are the most prolific word thieves of all time. We even stole an entire grammatically complete sentence from French ("Je ne sais quoi"). If you want English to be more like Hungarian, start inserting Hungarian words into sen…

> If you want English to be more like Hungarian, start inserting Hungarian words into sentences otherwise written in English I've been doing something like this with Finnish (which is in the same language family as Hungary) - I use Finnish colloquialism but directly translated into English. Things like "going ass first up a tree" (meaning doing something in a sub-optimal way) or "better on the ground than in the devi…

> "Try that with some names of cities or towns in England."

Are you suggesting it's not intuitively obvious that the town 'Towcester' should be pronounced the same as a "toaster" for toasting bread?

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