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Re: OpenClaw (ClawdBot) joins OpenAI

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Post by dolia »

yixn_io wrote: post #28

The "what value is it producing" question keeps coming up. I'll share my use case: I run https://ClawHosters.com , managed hosting for OpenClaw. Built it because I kept setting up instances for friends and getting support texts at 11pm on Saturdays. The value isn't the meme projects. It's the "n8n but you talk to it" angle someone mentioned above. Small business automation for people who know what they want but can't…

So the value it is producing is for you as the service provider on the hype. If the whole notion of "I set up a service because there was so much demand form friends" is even to be believed nowadays...

Re: OpenClaw (ClawdBot) joins OpenAI

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dolia wrote: post #31
yixn_io wrote: post #28

The "what value is it producing" question keeps coming up. I'll share my use case: I run https://ClawHosters.com , managed hosting for OpenClaw. Built it because I kept setting up instances for friends and getting support texts at 11pm on Saturdays. The value isn't the meme projects. It's the "n8n but you talk to it" angle someone mentioned above. Small business automation for people who know what they want but can't…

So the value it is producing is for you as the service provider on the hype. If the whole notion of "I set up a service because there was so much demand form friends" is even to be believed nowadays...

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Re: OpenClaw (ClawdBot) joins OpenAI

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Post by hu3 »

dolia wrote: post #30
hu3 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even the thousands of integrations? The strenght of openclaw is the massive community adherence. It can connect to a ton of things. It's like the https://zapier.com meets LLMs.

You think he implemented those thousands of integrations himself? Or maybe some particular tool was used that can be used again for implementing such things? Particular tool that so many of us use as well?

It was obviously largely by the community. Just take a look at PRs.

Question is, will the community continue with this level of engagement on the project now that it has OpenAI stamp on it?

I highly doubt. A fork? Maybe.

Re: OpenClaw (ClawdBot) joins OpenAI

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Post by shadab_nazar »

iSloth wrote: post #4

Amazing how bad Anthropic can miss the boat on this

Honestly the trademark thing was fine on its own — you protect your brand. But Anthropic was playing a legal game while OpenAI was playing a relationship game. One got a name change, the other got the most visible open-source agent project. If you're going to push someone away, maybe think about where they land.

Re: OpenClaw (ClawdBot) joins OpenAI

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Post by devhouse »

The specifics are crazier than most people realize. During the rename chaos, Steinberger called Altman to check if "Open"Claw was safe to use. That one phone call became the relationship that became the deal.

Before the forced rename, Claude was the default model, and Anthropic's own Constitutional AI research had inspired soul.md. The trademark enforcement accidentally created the introduction.

The part not getting enough attention is the governance gap, like the MIT license, foundation format, no IP transfer, etc. Good on paper. But the foundation hasn't formed yet, no board members, no governance documents, no clarity on trademark ownership or on the contractual rights OpenAI holds.

I mapped out every confirmed term and every undisclosed detail here: https://www.everydev.ai/p/blog-openclaw-joins-openai-who-own...

Re: OpenClaw (ClawdBot) joins OpenAI

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Post by clemenshelm »

The governance gap mentioned in several comments here is real. I'm a daily OpenClaw user and started building Pinchy (https://heypinchy.com) to solve this: AGPL-licensed enterprise layer with plugin permissions, RBAC, and audit logging. Self-hosted, offline-capable. Very early stage — building in public. (Disclosure: my project.)
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