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Re: Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung

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Post by DougBTX »

[deleted] wrote: post #18
shedside wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here you go: http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgment... [Edit: sorry, that's the initial judgement. This, I believe, is the order regarding the apology: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Patents/2012/2049.html ]

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It looks like Schedule 1 is what Samsung requested, ie, " post ... the notice ... on the home pages of its EU websites", but what they were granted is what paragraph 57 says, ie, "I will require the statement to be on the United Kingdom website of Apple corporation".

It doesn't explicitly say that the notice should appear on the home page of the Apple UK site, but I guess these legalistic things are quite fuzzy, so who knows what it means.

Re: Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung

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Post by danbee »

dakrisht wrote: post #6
sparkinson wrote: post #2

I think it does everything but apologise.

Agreed. Lol. Aren't they [Apple] supposed to prominently display the judge's order on the homepage?!

From the judgement text:

"The following notice shall be posted and displayed upon the Defendant's Websites currently at..."

Doesn't specifically say homepage. The text is 14px, which arguably isn't 14pt at anything other than 72 dpi.

Re: Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung

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Post by duiker101 »

smegel wrote: post #27

I don't really get why everyone is so down on Apple on HN (I am a Google/Android user FWIW). Sure they have pursued some questionable patent cases - but it is hard to deny they are one of the pre-eminent creators and makers in the world today - they have been truly innovative and brought massive change to multiple technology streams. They are about as far from being a hoarding patent troll as one could imagine yet th…

Having brought some innovation doesn't give you the right to be an asshole.

Re: Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung

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Post by Nursie »

smegel wrote: post #27

I don't really get why everyone is so down on Apple on HN (I am a Google/Android user FWIW). Sure they have pursued some questionable patent cases - but it is hard to deny they are one of the pre-eminent creators and makers in the world today - they have been truly innovative and brought massive change to multiple technology streams. They are about as far from being a hoarding patent troll as one could imagine yet th…

You could have written the same about MS in the 90s.

It's not just that they're suing folks, it's that their actions seem to be deliberately designed to suppress the market and suppress competition. It doesn't feel genuine.

And while they do innovate, I don't think they do half as much they're given credit for. They didn't invent the smartphone, nor the mp3 player, yet most people likely think they did.

Re: Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung

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Post by sparkinson »

bruceboughton wrote: post #11
sparkinson wrote: post #2

I think it does everything but apologise.

The judgement does not mention an apology, only a statement.

Must admit I haven't read the judgement. But still, if that is the case, this statement does everything it can to devalue the ruling.

Re: Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung

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Post by arn »

tallanvor wrote: post #24
jofo25 wrote: post #7

I thought they were required to in some way make the apology visible on their home page?

Based on the wording of the order, it would seem that the statement should be on their homepage, not a link to it. Of course, I'm sure Apple's legal counsel has decided their actions are within the scope of the ruling, so we'll have to see if Samsung asks a judge to declare them not in compliance with the order.

Court said

However, they added that the move need not "clutter" Apple's homepage as it would only have to add a link entitled "Samsung/Apple judgement" for a one-month period.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19989750

Re: Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung

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Post by EwanToo »

smegel wrote: post #27

I don't really get why everyone is so down on Apple on HN (I am a Google/Android user FWIW). Sure they have pursued some questionable patent cases - but it is hard to deny they are one of the pre-eminent creators and makers in the world today - they have been truly innovative and brought massive change to multiple technology streams. They are about as far from being a hoarding patent troll as one could imagine yet th…

I'm pretty sure a significant minority (majority even?) of HN readers make their living by writing software for Apple devices, or use them every day at work and at home as their technology of choice.

I think Apple's problem is, at least in part, one of standards - we hold them up to very high standards, both technology-wise, and also at an ethical level, Apple give out the message that they are "the good guys".

When someone you love turns out to be not quite as perfect as you imagined, the love can turn to hate or anger very quickly.

Re: Apple posts its UK apology to Samsung

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Post by [deleted] »

DougBTX wrote: post #31
[deleted] wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It looks like Schedule 1 is what Samsung requested, ie, " post ... the notice ... on the home pages of its EU websites", but what they were granted is what paragraph 57 says, ie, "I will require the statement to be on the United Kingdom website of Apple corporation". It doesn't explicitly say that the notice should appear on the home page of the Apple UK site, but I guess these legalistic things are quite fuzzy, so w…

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