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Re: YouTube as Storage

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This ia really cool but also feels like a potential burden on the commons,

That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries? They sure worry about the commons when launching another datacenter to optimize ads.

> That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries?

Exactly which countries could they buy?

Let me guess: you haven’t actually asked gemini

Re: YouTube as Storage

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I wonder if anyone has ever compiled a list of channels with abnormally large numbers of videos? For example this guy has over 14,000: https://www.youtube.com/@lylehsaxon

There is a channel with 2 million videos: https://www.youtube.com/@RoelVandePaar/videos One with 4 million videos: https://www.youtube.com/@NameLook

First one has transcribed stack overflow to YT by the look of it

Re: YouTube as Storage

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Also, how to get your google account banned for abuse.

Just make sure you have you have a bot network storing the information in with multiple accounts. Also with with enough parity bits (E.g. PAR2) to recover broken vids or removed accounts.

par2 is very limited.

It only support 32k parts in total (or in reality that means in practice 16k parts of source and 16k parts of parity).

Lets take 100GB of data (relatively large, but within realm of reason of what someone might want to protect), that means each part will be ~6MB in size. But you're thinking you also created 100GB of parity data (6MB*16384 parity parts) so you're well protected. You're wrong.

Now lets say one has 20000 random bit error over that 100GB. Not a lot of errors, but guess what, par will not be able to protect you (assuming those 20000 errors are spread over > 16384 blocks it precalculated in the source). so at the simplest level , 20KB of errors can be unrecoverable.

par2 was created for usenet when a) the size of binaries being posted wasn't so large b) the size of article parts being posted wasn't so large c) the error model they were trying to protect was whole articles not coming through or equivalently having errors. In the olden days of usenet binary posting you would see many "part repost requests", that basically disappeared with par (then quickly par2) introduction. It fails badly with many other error models.

Re: YouTube as Storage

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Also, how to get your google account banned for abuse.

Just make sure you have you have a bot network storing the information in with multiple accounts. Also with with enough parity bits (E.g. PAR2) to recover broken vids or removed accounts.

Or.... backblaze B2

Re: YouTube as Storage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries? They sure worry about the commons when launching another datacenter to optimize ads.

> That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries? Exactly which countries could they buy? Let me guess: you haven’t actually asked gemini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

Re: YouTube as Storage

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries? They sure worry about the commons when launching another datacenter to optimize ads.

> That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries? Exactly which countries could they buy? Let me guess: you haven’t actually asked gemini

Have you? Assuming Google would want to not put all their chips on that one number and invest all available capital in the purchase of a nation, and assuming that nation were open to being purchased in the first place (big assumption; see Greenland), Google is absolutely still in a place to be able to purchase multiple smaller countries, or one larger one.

Re: YouTube as Storage

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries? They sure worry about the commons when launching another datacenter to optimize ads.

> That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries? Exactly which countries could they buy? Let me guess: you haven’t actually asked gemini

The USA.

Re: YouTube as Storage

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Yes it is inefficient. But youtube pays the storage ;-). (There is probably a limit on free accounts, and it is probably not allowed by the TOS.)

Right, you just pay daily in worrying when, not if, youtube will terminate your account and delete your "videos".

I think it's just meant to be a fun experiment, not your next enterprise backup site

Re: YouTube as Storage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries? Exactly which countries could they buy? Let me guess: you haven’t actually asked gemini

Have you? Assuming Google would want to not put all their chips on that one number and invest all available capital in the purchase of a nation, and assuming that nation were open to being purchased in the first place (big assumption; see Greenland), Google is absolutely still in a place to be able to purchase multiple smaller countries, or one larger one.

Greenland already has a wealthy benefactor, I'd be surprised if poor countries wouldn't be interested

Re: YouTube as Storage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if anyone has ever compiled a list of channels with abnormally large numbers of videos? For example this guy has over 14,000: https://www.youtube.com/@lylehsaxon

There is a channel with 2 million videos: https://www.youtube.com/@RoelVandePaar/videos One with 4 million videos: https://www.youtube.com/@NameLook

NameLook puts a whole new meaning to "low effort videos"
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