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Discord just killed anonymity
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#32> Discord dropped the hammer: mandatory age verification for all users is rolling out next month. The era of anonymous gaming chats is officially over. This isn't really accurate. Age verification is not mandatory for all accounts. You will be able to join a Discord with your friends, chat, and do voice without age verification. Here's the exact list of what's restricted if you don't verify: > Content Filters: Discor…
Let's call this what it is: 1. A way for politicians and the state to track porn habits to US citizens and use that information against them in the future. Blackmail for the future politicians, business leaders, and wealthy to coerce them into doing what those in power want. 2. A way for conservatives to tighten the noose around non-chaste materials and begin to purge them from the internet. And if that works, that's…
> 1. A way for politicians and the state to track porn habits to US citizens and use that information against them in the future.
This topic really brings out the crazy conspiracy theories.
No, politicians are not using Discord age verification to track constituents' porn habits and blackmail them with it later.
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#33I’m going to do a video on this soon, but I was able to get Ergo IRCd and TheLounge up and running pretty quickly; https://chat.crilly.au/ I’ll be building a new platform on these two technologies and using Zoom or something else like Jitsi on the side for video/audio sharing. It’s time accept the loss of “features” and go back to something simpler but also something that can still be here in 38 years — like IRC has…
It's time to accept that 99% of people will not accept the loss of "features" (not sure why that's in quotes) or move to something objectively inferior for their needs i.e. something that requires more knowledge instead of simply opening an app where everything is ready to use.
Coming from a former heavy IRC user who's not going back except for nostalgia trips.
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#34https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-...
> For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.
> Facial scans never leave your device. Discord and our vendor partners never receive it. IDs are used to get your age only and then deleted. Discord only receives your age — that’s it. Your identity is never associated with your account.
> We leverage an advanced machine learning model developed at Discord to predict whether a user falls into a particular age group based on patterns of user behavior and several other signals associated with their account on Discord. We only use these signals to assign users to an age group when our confidence level is high; when it isn't, users go through our standard age assurance flow to confirm their age. We do not use your message content in the age estimation model.
I work with corporate privacy all of the time, and there is actually something really interesting going on here. We're basically never allowed to claim legal compliance using heuristics or predictive models. Like, never ever. They demand a paper trail on everything, and telling our legal team that we are going to leave it to an algorithm on a user device would make them foam at the mouth.
They are basically trusting a piece of software to look at your face or ID in the same way that, like, a server at a restaurant would check before serving you alcohol.
I am curious to see if this kind of software compliance in the long run is even allowable by regulators.
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#35> Discord dropped the hammer: mandatory age verification for all users is rolling out next month. The era of anonymous gaming chats is officially over. This isn't really accurate. Age verification is not mandatory for all accounts. You will be able to join a Discord with your friends, chat, and do voice without age verification. Here's the exact list of what's restricted if you don't verify: > Content Filters: Discor…
Discord says they'll use some AI garbage tool. Those are prone to mistakes over a large enough userbase. It will not be a rare occurrence for an adult to be labelled a child until they debase themselves with a scan of their face or a copy of their government ID. For children - this mandate also still makes the decision on behalf of the parents that a child must submit a scan of their face to a third party. Moving to…
I don't love what discord is doing, but where are you getting the idea that discord is going to estimate the user's age using "some AI garbage tool"? The article says everyone is on "child" mode by default, and verification is only required if you need to use the features / access content marked as adult only.
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#36> Discord dropped the hammer: mandatory age verification for all users is rolling out next month. The era of anonymous gaming chats is officially over. This isn't really accurate. Age verification is not mandatory for all accounts. You will be able to join a Discord with your friends, chat, and do voice without age verification. Here's the exact list of what's restricted if you don't verify: > Content Filters: Discor…
Let's call this what it is: 1. A way for politicians and the state to track porn habits to US citizens and use that information against them in the future. Blackmail for the future politicians, business leaders, and wealthy to coerce them into doing what those in power want. 2. A way for conservatives to tighten the noose around non-chaste materials and begin to purge them from the internet. And if that works, that's…
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#37Discord has always had dark patterns which basically ban anonymity. If you aren't fingerprintable enough (using VPN, etc) they will force you to enter a phone number. They also encourage guild admins to require it, although it is technically a choice.
I have used Discord for a number of years always via VPN and I've never given away my phone number.
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#38Discord has always felt more personal than just voice comms over a game. The way you can see more and more about what your friends are doing - like what song on spotify or how long you're playing fortnite, and how many days in a row you're playing these games.
I feel like it has always been on this path to capture more and more of your data and personally link it to who you are.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's call this what it is: 1. A way for politicians and the state to track porn habits to US citizens and use that information against them in the future. Blackmail for the future politicians, business leaders, and wealthy to coerce them into doing what those in power want. 2. A way for conservatives to tighten the noose around non-chaste materials and begin to purge them from the internet. And if that works, that's…
> 1. A way for politicians and the state to track porn habits to US citizens and use that information against them in the future. This topic really brings out the crazy conspiracy theories. No, politicians are not using Discord age verification to track constituents' porn habits and blackmail them with it later.
You poor summer child.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEXINT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexpionage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Vassall
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/how-no...
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/11/nsa-tracking-online-po...
https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/echoing-dirty-pa...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/27/nsa-files-live...
It's such a successful strategy, even Bitcoin scammers use it:
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/extortion-spam/25070/
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/27/asia/south-korea-telegram...