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Who smeared Richard Feynman? (2014)

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Re: Who smeared Richard Feynman? (2014)

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This is actually kind of hilarious. That your ex-wife would write to the FBI to denounce your character a couple of months after the divorce. I did really enjoy this detail: > It was an extremely ugly, long (2 years!) divorce hearing: it made the newspapers because of Bell’s allegations of “extreme cruelty” by Feynman, including the notion that he spent all of his waking hours either doing calculus and playing the bo…

Vindictiveness is a real thing.

Re: Who smeared Richard Feynman? (2014)

#32

(2014) Relevant because since then it's become quite trendy to throw mud at men like him.

Feynman really deserves it though: [0]. I admit to being part of the problem here, because in the 2000s and 2010s, I was in the Feynman cult with everyone else, but once you dig a little deeper under the quirky anecdotes (many of which are probably fictional), it’s clear he was kind of a scumbag and a lot of his reputation is whitewashing by what we’d now call fanboys. If his wife did write that memo, I’d say she had…

In the very first sentence, with the usage of "Feynman bros", we understand that it is not a text honestly discussing the limits and failures of Feynman (which would not be very interesting anyway), but a politically motivatedl attack against a man seen as too famous and influential.

Re: Who smeared Richard Feynman? (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not entirely without reason though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwKpj2ISQAc

I cannot take seriously someone pretending that Feynman was a sham

The video points out that the legacy not the man is a sham.

Re: Who smeared Richard Feynman? (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not entirely without reason though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwKpj2ISQAc

I cannot take seriously someone pretending that Feynman was a sham

There is just a big market for "X great person of the past was actually awful" and "what you learned in school is actually a conspiracy". That these things get spread like wildfire whenever they are brought up, because some people thinks it make them seem smarter I assume. They also drop all introspection or skepticism about it. I would put "Feynman is actually awful" in the same bucket as the "Mercator project is a racist conspiracy" (No one owns a globe apparently) or the multitude of "actually x woman is responsible for scientific advancement, not the man" stories that get spread around. They all fail at any real analysis.

Re: Who smeared Richard Feynman? (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not entirely without reason though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwKpj2ISQAc

That video is such an extremely weak argument. Sure Feynman probably has more fame than he is merited. But he is still one of the most influential physicists. He just also happened to be entertaining and wrote some books. Personality and self-marketing makes a difference, welcome to society.

I'd recommend that you watch the entire video, because the point is that he did not even write any of those books.

Re: Who smeared Richard Feynman? (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That video is such an extremely weak argument. Sure Feynman probably has more fame than he is merited. But he is still one of the most influential physicists. He just also happened to be entertaining and wrote some books. Personality and self-marketing makes a difference, welcome to society.

I'd recommend that you watch the entire video, because the point is that he did not even write any of those books.

I would say read up a little so that you are in a position to make up your own mind. Also compare the video recordings and published book to figure out whose material it was.

It's easy to throw muck at someone who is not around to defend.

And you seem to be saying that it is a reasonable thing to do in this particular case.

Re: Who smeared Richard Feynman? (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not entirely without reason though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwKpj2ISQAc

I cannot take seriously someone pretending that Feynman was a sham

Feynman did physics and told stories.

He was very serious about his physics and wrote that stuff down.

Someone else wrote down his stories. His stories were probably often not entirely accurate, and whomever wrote down his stories also probably had an agenda. So books "by feynman" should be treated with some caution since they're written not by feynman.

His physics and science are obviously not "a sham". It is in fact possible for someone to be great and awful at the same time.

Re: Who smeared Richard Feynman? (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That video is such an extremely weak argument. Sure Feynman probably has more fame than he is merited. But he is still one of the most influential physicists. He just also happened to be entertaining and wrote some books. Personality and self-marketing makes a difference, welcome to society.

I'd recommend that you watch the entire video, because the point is that he did not even write any of those books.

So someone took recordings of his stories and compiled them into a text....? What does that matter I have seen that entire video in the past, its unsubstantiated garbage that fails mild skepticism. Every point can be explained away trivially. They have an axe to grind against Fenyman / Men generally, and since this goes against the established narrative its therefore heralded as being correct and people blindly follow it.

Re: Who smeared Richard Feynman? (2014)

#39

The problem with extremely smart people is not many people understand them. They're typically going to be non-conformist in any event, and may come across as arrogant if they have an intricate belief system that you may not take the time to understand. I'd think one of the greatest scientists of a generation would have the kind of depth of thinking that few would understand. Having listened to many of his interviews…

> The problem with extremely smart people is not many people understand them.

I know this is a common trope in many media portrayals, but it's really not my experience. The "insufferable genius" stereotype tracks most not for the extremely smart people but the kinda-smart people who are absolute jerks but try to defend their jerkassery on the basis of their intelligence.

Re: Who smeared Richard Feynman? (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not entirely without reason though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwKpj2ISQAc

That video is such an extremely weak argument. Sure Feynman probably has more fame than he is merited. But he is still one of the most influential physicists. He just also happened to be entertaining and wrote some books. Personality and self-marketing makes a difference, welcome to society.

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