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"Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Post by autoexec »

unethical_ban wrote: post #4

In one thread I am defending anonymity online from government mandated ID laws. Then I think to the persistent, malevolent, destructive lies that people spread with complete impunity and with faked video and photo evidence. This is not what the first amendment was designed to protect. Wary of making government the arbiter of truth, I don't know what society should do to combat this evil. In a fantasy world where I we…

We need laws to stop this sort of thing for sure. I love the first amendment but we place sane limits on it all the time. This seems like one of those things cases where it's easy to draw the line and when people are being paid it's easy to trace the money to those responsible

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

rightbyte wrote: post #27
vivzkestrel wrote: post #10

there is a also a very strong anti india sentiment on twitter / x just search for #india or look at the comments of posts made by people like vivek ramaswamy , nikki haley, and any other politician and you ll see it. I wonder if this is some kinda state sponsored campaign for objectives that are not clear to me

I think it might be related to support disrupting the US work visa process somehow. Like the strange "actually Indians" meme on Reddit etc.

What does make it strange?

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Post by AlienRobot »

unethical_ban wrote: post #4

In one thread I am defending anonymity online from government mandated ID laws. Then I think to the persistent, malevolent, destructive lies that people spread with complete impunity and with faked video and photo evidence. This is not what the first amendment was designed to protect. Wary of making government the arbiter of truth, I don't know what society should do to combat this evil. In a fantasy world where I we…

You are conflating different things. Anonymous or not, people can post hate on the Internet. That's a question of moderation.

Personally I think it would be easier to just ban anything that is political altogether. Bluesky for example is 90% politics. Just because something can be allowed in some spaces on the Internet that doesn't mean it should be allowed on every single space. No reason for the "funny short video" platform to become a news/opinion essay platform.

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Post by afavour »

Aurornis wrote: post #9

> He’d previously run a TikTok account that had amassed 24,000 followers. One night, he was astonished to find, he received his first payout from TikTok’s creator scheme. > His head was turned by the substantial sum of money: “I told my wife, wow, it’s £1,000.” I’m not familiar with TikTok’s payout rate. Is it really so high that an account with 24K followers can start getting checks that large?

TikTok's algorithm makes follower counts less important than they are on other platforms. The means by which your video gets into people's FYP feed is not very clear but it is very, very common to see content from someone you do not follow, and I think if it shows positive engagement stats it'll get shown to more and more people.

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Post by glasss »

Aurornis wrote: post #14
unethical_ban wrote: post #4

In one thread I am defending anonymity online from government mandated ID laws. Then I think to the persistent, malevolent, destructive lies that people spread with complete impunity and with faked video and photo evidence. This is not what the first amendment was designed to protect. Wary of making government the arbiter of truth, I don't know what society should do to combat this evil. In a fantasy world where I we…

This person wasn’t anonymous to TikTok. They were doing this for payments. TikTok had their information! Voluntarily, too. Forcing everyone to ID themselves to companies would not have changed anything about this story > In a fantasy world where I were king, the person who ran this tiktok would be in jail. Now take this thought one step further and imagine if the king was someone you disagreed with, putting people in…

Yes but in my fantasy world I'm the king because my morals and opinions are best for society. And of course I'll always be reasonable and never have a bad day or let my personal interests take priority over the good of my subjects.

Obviously this is just wishful thinking about governance that people have been saying for milennia. Socrates said philosophers should of course be kings / the ruling class.

There's no simple solution to creating a harmonious society, which of course leads people today and from thousands of years ago to say "Gee, wouldn't it just be nice if everyone listened to me about how to act and what to do when people get out line?". It's a fantasy, and a reminder that anyone wanting a benevolent dictator or to give up their responsibility of being a good citizen shouldn't be taken seriously.

But I do pinky promise I would be a good king if everyone wanted to give me a try.

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Post by rightbyte »

WesolyKubeczek wrote: post #32
rightbyte wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it might be related to support disrupting the US work visa process somehow. Like the strange "actually Indians" meme on Reddit etc.

What does make it strange?

Dunno it felt out of place and forced. Just a feeling I have no data.

Re: "Hate brings views": Confessions of a London fake news TikToker

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Post by afavour »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #11

It's a genuinely surprising feeling to live in a place, but see an absolute torrent of malevolent misinformation about it. The "London has fallen" trope that has been prevalent on social media recently stank of some kind of deliberate manipulation. But increasingly—in part due to stories like this—I wonder if it is actually just all "for the views".

For what it's worth living in NYC often feels the same. There are people who live on Long Island - many just an hour or so from the city - who are convinced it's a hellscape here.

Even people with children who live in the city are somehow able to tolerate the cognitive dissonance of hearing their children talk about the lives they lead while also believing the city is crime-ridden and dangerous.

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