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I started programming when I was 7. I'm 50 now and the thing I loved has changed

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Re: I started programming when I was 7. I'm 50 now and the thing I loved has changed

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post #25

A blacksmith was a person that picked up chunks of carbon and heated them to they were glowing red and beat the iron to submission with a hammer in their hands. Today iron is produced by machines in factories by the mega-tonne. We just happened to live in the age where code when from being beaten by hand to a mass produced product. And so the change of technology goes.

And the blacksmiths losing their jobs are not allowed to feel bad about it?

Re: I started programming when I was 7. I'm 50 now and the thing I loved has changed

#32
Please stop upvoting these posts. We have gotten to the point where both the front page and new page is polluted with these laments

It’s literally the same argument over and over and it’s the same comments over and over and over

HN will either get back to interesting stuff or simply turn into a support group for aging “coders” that refuse to adapt

I’m going to start flagging these as spam

Re: I started programming when I was 7. I'm 50 now and the thing I loved has changed

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you bothered to read it you’d find that I am embracing the tools and I still feel there is craft. It’s just different. But snark away. It’s lazy. And yes it is so damn tedious.

Speaking directly, if I catch the scent of ChatGPT, it's over. People put out AI text, primarily, to run hustles. So its writing style is a kind of internet version of "talking like a used car salesman". With some people that's fine, but anyone with a healthy epistemic immune system is not going to listen to you. If you want to save a few minutes, you'll just have to accept that.

What's your target false positive rate?

I mean, obviously you can't know your actual error rates, but it seems useful to estimate a number for this and to have a rough intuition for what your target rate is.

Did chatGPT write this response?

Re: I started programming when I was 7. I'm 50 now and the thing I loved has changed

#34
I humbly submit this interview with Grady Booch (if you know, you know) talking about the "3rd golden age of software engineering - thanks to AI": https://youtu.be/OfMAtaocvJw

I feel like the conversation does a good job of couching the situation we find ourselves in.

Re: I started programming when I was 7. I'm 50 now and the thing I loved has changed

#35
I have the opposite take. There’s nothing stopping you from jumping into any component to polish things up. You can code whatever you wish. And AI takes away nearly all of the drudgery : boilerplate, test cases, inspecting poor documentation, absurd tooling.

It also lets me focus more on improving things since I feel more liberated to scrap low quality components. I’m much braver to take on large refactors now – things that would have taken days now take minutes.

In many ways AI has made up for my growing lack of patience and inability to stay on task until 3am.

Re: I started programming when I was 7. I'm 50 now and the thing I loved has changed

#37
post #3

The irony of these "My craft is dead" posts is that they consistently, heavily leverage AI for their writing. So you're crying about losing one craft to AI while using AI to kill another. It's disingenuous. And yes it is so damn obvious.

Imagine if people were complex creatures, feeling different emotions for different things, shocking right?

I can hate LLMs for killing my craft while simultaneously using it to write a "happy birthday" message for a relative I hate or some corpo speak.

Re: I started programming when I was 7. I'm 50 now and the thing I loved has changed

#38
post #17

> I started programming when I was seven because a machine did exactly what I told it to, felt like something I could explore and ultimately know, and that felt like magic. I’m fifty now, and the magic is different, and I’m learning to sit with that. Don't take this the wrong way but this is more of an age thing rather than a technology advancement thing. Kids growing up nowadays that are interested in computers grow…

> Don't take this the wrong way but this is more of an age thing rather than a technology advancement thing.

I am much younger than the poster you are replying to, but I feel much the same.

Re: I started programming when I was 7. I'm 50 now and the thing I loved has changed

#39
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you bothered to read it you’d find that I am embracing the tools and I still feel there is craft. It’s just different. But snark away. It’s lazy. And yes it is so damn tedious.

Why should anyone bother to read what nobody wrote?

AI?
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