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Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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Re: Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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Post by kyleblarson »

cthalupa wrote: post #9

It's very easy to believe that Epstein cultivated a massive quantity of relationships with any sort of rich, famous, influential, or powerful person he could. It's very easy to believe that many of them, for much of his existence, had no idea what was really going on. It's very easy to believe that plenty of "normal" (for relative values of normal here) people had no idea how to act when this all came to light and ju…

At least we can rest knowing that all of these rich, famous, powerful people will face consequences for their disgusting actions....

Re: Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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Post by drukenemo »

tgv wrote: post #23

Although I'm not a fan of Chomsky, neither of his political-philosophical, nor his linguistic work, he's never come across as dishonest, and I won't believe implications until corroborated by hard evidence.

The guy is literally photographed inside a plane with Epstein. And supported him after accusations had been made.

Re: Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #18
INTPenis wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But wait, there's more, also a strange explanation about 270000 dollars being sent from Epstein to Chomsky. Apparently something had happened to Chomsky's retirement fund, and Epstein was helping him recover money?! It makes no sense to me. Honestly, Chomsky I am willing to believe unconditionally. He has spent his entire life speaking out on US imperialism, and Israel. His career is longer than Epstein's whole life.…

Chomsky, like most involved in arguing for or against Post-modernism/post-structuralism/Neo Marxism, was likely doing it on purpose to neuter any meaningful left wing opposition to US policy and keep them in "fashionable nonsense" territory. Anyone engaging with them in anyway is suspect by definition. https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/the-cia-reads-french-theor... https://indecentbazaar.wordpress.com/2010/12/20/dele…

Chomsky is about as far from post-modernist and post-structuralist as you can get in terms of the American left. He spent his career insisting on rational & logical discourse and using reason as a tool and opposing the postmodernist turn in the left.

He believed in true and false, and insisted those were tools to be used to disarm the powerful. Which... man that would be nice right about now.

I don't always like the guy or agree with his arguments, but this is a bizarre claim from you.

Re: Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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Post by spwa4 »

randycupertino wrote: post #30
KingOfCoders wrote: post #16

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I watched some of the videos and you could see DNA paternity tests sitting around on the tables in front of the dancing girls his Manhattan townhouse ( example- 24 seconds in - https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01648... ) . Interestingly if you change the last couple of digits in the video links to just any random number combo it unlocks a ton more (many awful, disgusting) videos. Changing the fi…

They seem to be having trouble holding on to enough personnel to make these changes reliably. Probably also internally have trouble getting people to do it.

Re: Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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Post by datsci_est_2015 »

CodingJeebus wrote: post #21
KingOfCoders wrote: post #15

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If I'm tasking someone to move over a quarter million dollars in funds for me, you bet I'm gonna Google the living crap out of them first. I just can't believe someone as intelligent as Chomsky would be so blindly trusting. $270k is still a lot of money for a guy like Chomsky.

He knew. He felt he was immune to consequences. They all feel immune to consequences.

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Post by brabel »

drukenemo wrote: post #32
tgv wrote: post #23

Although I'm not a fan of Chomsky, neither of his political-philosophical, nor his linguistic work, he's never come across as dishonest, and I won't believe implications until corroborated by hard evidence.

The guy is literally photographed inside a plane with Epstein. And supported him after accusations had been made.

Did this letter change anything for you? Being on his plane is by itself a crime?

Re: Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

tgv wrote: post #23

Although I'm not a fan of Chomsky, neither of his political-philosophical, nor his linguistic work, he's never come across as dishonest, and I won't believe implications until corroborated by hard evidence.

The last 10ish years of his intellectual life were unfortunately not great.

He took the wrong positioning on the war in Ukraine. Along with others.

And it looks here like he made a series of personal relationship mistakes.

The man can't speak for himself anymore, but it's not a good look and I don't think his partner has done him any favours here by deflecting responsibility.

Clearly awful mistakes were made.

Re: Noam Chomsky's wife responds to Epstein controversy

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Post by api »

One of the crazy things about these files is: it’s clear that the root motivation for a huge number of these guys is just to get with very young girls (and sometimes boys).

Nothing sophisticated. Nothing inspired. Just what the most atavistic parts of the brain stem want.

They were billionaires and high ranking academics and politicians. They could have done so many things but that’s where a huge portion of their energy went. It was clearly one of the most important things to them.

Makes me think of the paperclip maximizers idea. We are paperclip maximizers. This is how a paperclip maximizer would behave. They could extend health and life and explore the universe, but paperclips. Must make paperclips.

I also get the impression that the reason a lot of these guys are attracted to authoritarian right wing ideology, neo-monarchism, etc. is the same. It’s because it would let them have little girls without pesky enlightenment notions like rights or woke nonsense about equality getting in the way.

Gotta make paperclips. Burn the world to make paperclips.

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