It turned out that the post Karpathy shared was fake—it was written by a human pretending to be a bot. Hilarious. Instead of just bots impersonating humans (eg. captcha solvers), we now have humans impersonating bots.
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#32I bet others can recognize the tells of some of the other models too.
Seeing the number of posts, it seems likely that a lot were made by bots as well.
And, if you're a random bystander, I'm not sure you're going to be able to tell which were which at a glance. :-P
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#33It turned out that the post Karpathy shared was fake—it was written by a human pretending to be a bot. Hilarious. Instead of just bots impersonating humans (eg. captcha solvers), we now have humans impersonating bots.
There’s a 1960s Stanislaw Lem story about this.
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#34The great irony is that the most popular posts on Moltbook are by humans and most posts on Reddit are by bots.
I'm going to use that stat. Even if 78.4% of quoted stats are made up.
> The great irony is that the 69.13% of popular posts on Moltbook are by humans and 67.42% posts on Reddit are by bots.Re: MIT Technology Review has confirmed that posts on Moltbook were fake
#35Anyone with a decent grasp of how this technology works, and a healthy inclination to skepticism, was not awed by Moltbook. Putting aside how incredibly easy it is to set up an agent, or several, to create impressive looking discussion there, simply by putting the right story hooks in their prompts. The whole thing is a security nightmare. People are setting agents up, giving them access to secrets, payment details,…
Yep, that's the most worrying part. For now, at least.
> The moment agents start sharing their embeddings
Embedding is just a model-dependent compressed representation of a context window. It's not that different from sharing a compressed and encrypted text.
Sharing add-on networks (LLM adapters) that encapsulate functionality would be more worrying (for locally run models).
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Karpathy seemed pretty awed though
This was his explanation for anyone interested: > I'm being accused of overhyping the [site everyone heard too much about today already]. People's reactions varied very widely, from "how is this interesting at all" all the way to "it's so over". > To add a few words beyond just memes in jest - obviously when you take a look at the activity, it's a lot of garbage - spams, scams, slop, the crypto people, highly concern…
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#37However, is TFA implying that 100% of the posts were made by humans? That seems unlikely to me.
TFA is so non-technical that it’s annoying. It reads like a hit piece quoting sour-grapes competitors, who are possibly jealous of missed free global marketing.
Tell us the actual “string pulling” mechanics. Try to set it up at least, and report on that, please. Use some of that fat MIT cash for Anthropic tokens. Us plebs can’t afford to play with openclaw.
Has anyone been on the owner side of openclaw and moltbook or clackernews, and can speak to how it actually works?
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s a 1960s Stanislaw Lem story about this.
Do you have a link?
And the HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46898615
Better, earlier post from Cisco: https://blogs.cisco.com/ai/personal-ai-agents-like-openclaw-...
Although, none of this is a surprise, as simonw has laid out.
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#40The great irony is that the most popular posts on Moltbook are by humans and most posts on Reddit are by bots.