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Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse

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Re: Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse

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> Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse The title is egregiously exaggerated. It implies humanity will go extinct if this happens, when it obviously won't. The actual article doesn't even come anywhere close to making that claim.

Somehow humanity survived 10,000 years of the last ice age. Without central heating. Of course, furs will be harder to come by.

Re: Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse

#32

> Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse The title is egregiously exaggerated. It implies humanity will go extinct if this happens, when it obviously won't. The actual article doesn't even come anywhere close to making that claim.

Somehow humanity survived 10,000 years of the last ice age. Without central heating. Of course, furs will be harder to come by.

Yeah but they didn’t have social media algorithms turning their brains into slush

Re: Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse

#33

> Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse The title is egregiously exaggerated. It implies humanity will go extinct if this happens, when it obviously won't. The actual article doesn't even come anywhere close to making that claim.

Somehow humanity survived 10,000 years of the last ice age. Without central heating. Of course, furs will be harder to come by.

They were already excellent at survival, and they migrated, and many of them died young. Sure, _humanity_ will survive, but a large part of the population won't.

Re: Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse

#34
> Back in 2021, a study in Nature Geosciences showed that the AMOC was the weakest it’s been in more than 1,000 years.

Out of curiosity, what happened 1000 years ago to make it so weak? 1000 years ago is still human time scales - there were people living in europe and north america at the time. We have written records from the europeans at least. Its not like this was 100,000 years ago.

Re: Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse

#35
Yes, the title is exaggerated. But I think a lot of you are underestimating the societal impact of roughly half a billion climate refugees. That kind of destabilization could easily lead to societal collapse, world war, etc...

The Syrian refugee crisis meant something like a million people fleeing into Europe and it caused massive political upheavals.

Re: Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somehow humanity survived 10,000 years of the last ice age. Without central heating. Of course, furs will be harder to come by.

Yeah but they didn’t have social media algorithms turning their brains into slush

They also didn't have nuclear weapons to use in global conflicts over resources.

Re: Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse

#37

> Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse The title is egregiously exaggerated. It implies humanity will go extinct if this happens, when it obviously won't. The actual article doesn't even come anywhere close to making that claim.

Somehow humanity survived 10,000 years of the last ice age. Without central heating. Of course, furs will be harder to come by.

Being cold doesn't seem that big a problem.

I think the bigger concern is what sudden climate shifts might do to agriculture. If some farmland becomes much less viable on a wide basis, that might be much harder to adjust to on the short term.

I can't help but think of all the historical societies that collapsed due to even mild pressure on the food supply.

Re: Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse

#38

Is this real? https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/research-frontiers/how-a-swiss-... Says it’s not. Seems like this kind of disaster engagement bait that’s super popular now

The last paragraph says this:

The will-it-won’t-it collapse of the AMOC is something to keep an eye on. But there are other pressing climate change issues to address in the near term, such as food security, ecosystem degradation, and rising disease rates.

Re: Bye Bye Humanity: The Potential AMOC Collapse

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post #34

> Back in 2021, a study in Nature Geosciences showed that the AMOC was the weakest it’s been in more than 1,000 years. Out of curiosity, what happened 1000 years ago to make it so weak? 1000 years ago is still human time scales - there were people living in europe and north america at the time. We have written records from the europeans at least. Its not like this was 100,000 years ago.

the further back you go, the less evidence we have. we don't know it was this week 1000 years ago, it's just that the error bars got big enough that we can't yet rule it out.
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