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Valve's Steam Machine has been delayed, and the RAM crisis will impact pricing

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Re: Valve's Steam Machine has been delayed, and the RAM crisis will impact pricing

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Post by wolvoleo »

account42 wrote: post #27
preisschild wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gabe Newell? Yeah. He deserves it frankly.

For what, being slightly less greedy than his peers? Steam is what normalized always online DRM in gaming. Steam and Valve games also normalized micro-transactions and gambling mechanics. The guy is far from being a saint.

Agreed, the DRM and the always online and forced updates have bothered me ever since steam became a big thing.

I really like that on gog I can choose to install every version of a game ever released. So they can't remove content like music due to expired licenses etc.

Re: Valve's Steam Machine has been delayed, and the RAM crisis will impact pricing

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Post by wolvoleo »

preisschild wrote: post #17
eloisant wrote: post #16

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In democracies money going to governments isn't sucked to some kind of vacuum. It's reinvested in infrastructure, social programs, investment programs, etc. The US would be better off if it had more money to invest in healthcare and education, and Gabe would still be fine living in a house worth a few millions instead of on a half billion yacht.

I live in a democracy (central Europe) and too much is spent on subsidizing farmers and useless social programs.

Where do you think your food comes from?

Why do you think we don't have to worry about someone shooting us for 20€?

These things are not wasted money. They could be spent more efficiently, but I don't think they are a waste at all.

Re: Valve's Steam Machine has been delayed, and the RAM crisis will impact pricing

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Post by newsclues »

enricozb wrote: post #4
blell wrote: post #3

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Maybe you should think about why a company like Valve could have never been founded in the EU instead.

What about it is incompatible with the EU?

All sorts of content that EU bureaucrats find objectionable like the sex games

Re: Valve's Steam Machine has been delayed, and the RAM crisis will impact pricing

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Post by jackvalentine »

yetihehe wrote: post #26
eloisant wrote: post #14

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I guess the point is that they got this level of success (which GOG didn't reach) because they're based in US. And I tend to agree with that, there are some reason, including the fact that it's a huge country with a wealthy population that use loans and credit cards to buy even more that they can afford. That creates a strong domestic market that you can leverage before having to look at international sales. Nothing…

Epic was founded in US and didn't reach such success too. I think this is not because of US based, more like because of Gabe Newell.

Good example. I’d want to look at the first-mover(ish) advantage Valve had and other differences in product timing/delivery before I concluded it was impossible to found a company like Valve in the EU.

Re: Valve's Steam Machine has been delayed, and the RAM crisis will impact pricing

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Post by account42 »

vga42 wrote: post #19
ThePinion wrote: post #8

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I sure do love these irrelevant and heavily opinionated political social justice woes with all the usual buzzwords all over Hacker News these days.

"Fascist" is not a buzzword. It's your political reality. Are you culpable of letting that reality be?

It may be the reality in your mind but it is not the reality in the actual real world. Don't expect to be taken seriously by anyone outside your political bubble until you learn to communicate your concerns using reasonable language.

Re: Valve's Steam Machine has been delayed, and the RAM crisis will impact pricing

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Post by MrBuddyCasino »

preisschild wrote: post #9
SSchick wrote: post #7

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Are we defending billionaires again?

Gabe Newell? Yeah. He deserves it frankly.

The moment Gabe bites the dust is when suddenly a lot of things become way shittier.

Re: Valve's Steam Machine has been delayed, and the RAM crisis will impact pricing

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Post by wolvoleo »

newsclues wrote: post #34
enricozb wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about it is incompatible with the EU?

All sorts of content that EU bureaucrats find objectionable like the sex games

You know the big push against that comes from American credit card companies, right? Including the recent removal of games from steam.

Here in Europe sex isn't nearly as big a taboo as in the US, though they do want age gating.

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