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ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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This is why you must block all ads always. No exceptions.

It's not about blocking ads, but blocking tracking. If you connect to internet you are being tracked even though you block known tracking URLs. e.g. Hacker news uses no tracking url but uses Cloudflare which tracks the user across sites for things like bot detection.

You are not powerless.

https://0xacab.org/dCF/deCloudflare

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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> Against that backdrop, ICE’s assertion that it is considering privacy expectations appears designed to reassure both policymakers and potential vendors that the agency is aware of the controversy surrounding commercial surveillance data.

We can't seriously believe that this agency has any sense of respect for privacy right? They literally are going around thinking they don't need judicial warrants. I mean nobody's going to stop them using the purchased data however they want, but don't lie and say you'll be good with the privacy and care of the data.

https://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-...

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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post #32

> Against that backdrop, ICE’s assertion that it is considering privacy expectations appears designed to reassure both policymakers and potential vendors that the agency is aware of the controversy surrounding commercial surveillance data. We can't seriously believe that this agency has any sense of respect for privacy right? They literally are going around thinking they don't need judicial warrants. I mean nobody's…

>They literally are going around thinking they don't need judicial warrants.

Noem at the Senate hearing : "Well, habeas corpus is a constitutional right that the president has to be able to remove people from this country, and suspend their right to ..."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46832512

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s worth pointing out that a non-insignificant subset of tech workers know the impacts and still don’t give a fuck though.

@anoym - There isn’t something inherently bad about working for law enforcement or national security agencies as long as what you’re doing cannot be used now or in the future unethically. But too be honest I think this is a ‘don’t hate the player’ type things, if palantir didn’t exist, another company would take its place - privacy legislation is the only thing that prevents it, not relying on ethics of the masses.

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Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Don't forget - Microsoft, Google, Apple, Amazon, Oracle, etc are all proud partners of the US intelligence community, which includes DHS and ICE. When the NSA asked these companies to participate in an unconstitutional and unlawful program (as ruled by a federal judge) called PRISM, they didn't fight, they eagerly complied. They kept their compliance secret. They lied about it to citizens, to their users, to their customers, and even to congress. These are fundamentally untrustworthy entities, and there's no reason to believe they've changed and won't comply with secret DHS and ICE requests just like they did with secret NSA requests.

Every dollar spent on AWS, Azure, GCP, Oracle Cloud, iPhones, Macbooks, Windows, Office, etc supports the widespread violation of rights committed against the innocent of all political and demographic backgrounds in the name of "national security".

Know what doesn't? Open source operating systems, open source software, and self-hosting. Do the right thing, ditch the modern day equivalents of IBM collaborating with the enemies of freedom, human dignity, and human prosperity.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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This has bean a long time coming. This is a stark reminder that you should consider who the future stewards of whatever you are building might be. We built a vast surveillance network under the guise of servings ads and making money, and lost track of how this power could be abused by an entity not aligned with our own values.

It was always intended to be used that way, the programmatic advertising industry is a product of US Nat Sec.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite the high horse you got there

It’s worth pointing out that a non-insignificant subset of tech workers know the impacts and still don’t give a fuck though.

Is it worth pointing out? It seems counterproductive to respond to a call to action by sarcastically complaining about the people being called to action.
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