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My five stages of AI grief

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Re: My five stages of AI grief

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Post by tavavex »

catigula wrote: post #5

>What I came to realize as I began using these tools more is that I was entirely wrong about feeling like my skills would become useless. They don't replace all the experience and knowledge I've accumulated in over two decades as a developer, and instead they enhance what I could do. FYI this is the denial stage.

What you determine to be denial depends only on what you think is inevitable. OP said "my value is in performing more advanced functions that aren't just writing code", and to you it's denial because (from the implication) you think the complete elimination of software engineers as a job is inevitable. If OP said "my value is that I am multifunctional and can pivot to a completely different industry of mental labor" some people would call it denial because they think all those jobs are next in line on the chopping block. If OP said "my value is in being able to perform physical labor for cheap" some people would call it denial because robotics is progressing rapidly. And so on.

Re: My five stages of AI grief

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Post by archagon »

weeznerps wrote: post #8
Kapura wrote: post #3

If the only way to advance my career was to talk into a chatbox that makes shit up and encourages people to kill themselves i would stop using computers to spend my days picking oranges. i guess some people feel differently.

Anger stage

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Re: My five stages of AI grief

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Post by yomismoaqui »

EForEndeavour wrote: post #25
rootnod3 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I must be using it wrong then or using the wrong languages. All I have seen it produce so far was mediocre at best and painfully wrong 2-3 prompts in. Not even starting with how it just “fixes” a hug by introducing a wholly new one and then re-introducing the old one when pointing it out.

Obligatory but important: which model, application, and programming language was this in?

Let me guess... GPT 3.5, ChatGPT and Brainfuck?

Re: My five stages of AI grief

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Post by thedevilslawyer »

anonymous908213 wrote: post #12
aurareturn wrote: post #2

Many HN commentators went through the same thing over the last 3 years. You'd find plenty of skeptics in 2023 and 2024 comments. First half of 2025 was the anger stage. Later half of 2025 was full on bargaining stage when models like GPT5.2 and Opus 4.5 were released. In 2026, people are in depression stage. I don't think most devs will go into acceptance stage until later this year when Blackwell-class models come o…

Edit: The comment I am replying to was rewritten completely, and originally asserted that the quality of LLMs was now undeniable. "Undeniably"? I will deny that they are good. I try to use LLMs on a near-daily basis and find them unbearably frustrating to use. They cannot even adequately complete instructions like "following the pattern of A, B, and C in the existing code, create X Y and Z functions but with one chan…

Still in Anger. Got it.

Re: My five stages of AI grief

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Post by aurareturn »

anonymous908213 wrote: post #24
NitpickLawyer wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problems with your take (and others like it) are manyfold. First, there are some "smells" that I noticed. You say that LLMs hallucinate APIs and in another comment (brief skim of your history to make sure it's worth replying) you say something about chatting with an LLM. If you're "using" them in a chat interface, that's already 1+year old tech, and you should know that noone here talks about that. We're talking…

I use the chat interface by default because it is the only way I have felt that I am gaining any productivity at all. Letting LLMs waste time probing for files and executing their atrocities on my codebase has only resulted in lost time. Not for lack of trying; I have set up Codex and Claude Code environments, multiple times. I have wasted entire days trying to configure the setup and get something that provides valu…

  This very thread is about hype.
Hype doesn't explain how everyone on my dev team no longer writes 95% of the code we push to production.

Re: My five stages of AI grief

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Post by anonymous908213 »

thedevilslawyer wrote: post #34
anonymous908213 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: The comment I am replying to was rewritten completely, and originally asserted that the quality of LLMs was now undeniable. "Undeniably"? I will deny that they are good. I try to use LLMs on a near-daily basis and find them unbearably frustrating to use. They cannot even adequately complete instructions like "following the pattern of A, B, and C in the existing code, create X Y and Z functions but with one chan…

Still in Anger. Got it.

I'm starting to get a new sense of which people LLMs are useful for. I'm sure they're life-changing for those with intelligence below that of a child, so I'm glad for you that you have this tool available now.

Re: My five stages of AI grief

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Post by amai »

anonymous908213 wrote: post #19
aurareturn wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Got a concrete example of where Opus 4.5 disappointed you? Maybe a Github repo for me to try?

As you can see from the username, this is an anonymous account where I speak freely without concern of it being associated with me or my projects in perpetuity. I will extend the same question to you, though, as I have offered to every person I engage with on this subject on HN: what is your 10x project? Have you produced any software that other people would consider using[1]? I have yet to be shown a single project…

What about https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw?
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