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Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train

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Re: Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train

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Given their inherit latency, and cost; the equation for running everything via Wireguard is surly worth it.

I never understood the business case for Starlink. You're either on fiber or 5G.

There are massive areas in the US not covered by 5G, or any cell service. Are you just assuming that coverage is 100% everywhere?

Most places I'm at with 5G also have really poor speeds, usually under 10Mbps download with fairly high latency. Not really suitable for a primary internet connection.

Re: Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train

#32
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You occasionally get blocked, but not that often if you can putup with a few more captchas. Can't remember it ever being more then a minor inconvenience and well worth this cost.

My home internet is 5G, and many, many websites are blocked or have infinite captcha loops... even well-known sites. Etsy is blocked. Reddit/Discord/Locals is blocked. Archive.is only captcha loops. Even libera IRC is blocked. Trying to buy products online often gets the order flagged or canceled as a potential bot or VPN. IPs are rotated often so I unfortunately have to share bad-reputation IPs with people who keep…

Thank cgnat

Re: Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train

#33
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I never understood the business case for Starlink. You're either on fiber or 5G.

Take your RV for an extended stay at the National Parks. RV parks are full of Starlinkers and I *love* the service. Roadtrips with kids are so much better too. The residential dish's in-motion performance is phenomenal and it's not even made for that.

Yes! Definitely gotta ensure those kids are consuming digital content at all times, especially on road trips or in nature.

Re: Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train

#34
post #6

Given their inherit latency, and cost; the equation for running everything via Wireguard is surly worth it.

I never understood the business case for Starlink. You're either on fiber or 5G.

I live in a place with no fiber and no 5G. Here’s your business case.

Re: Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train

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I never understood the business case for Starlink. You're either on fiber or 5G.

I live in a place with no fiber and no 5G. Here’s your business case.

So a high latency connection that is also susceptible to atmospheric effects and run by a madman is okay?

I am still on DSL because there is no fiber or 5g internet here yet*. And I live on the edge of an area with 500k people. DSL is good enough for 4k streaming video and anything else I need and costs me $65.

Why on earth would I want to make things worse by using starlink?

Of course, if I lived 50 miles from a gas station, that is different. But living rural has many risks and downsides that the people out there accept.

*This is the real issue. If corporations had to put its customers(and employees) on the same level as shareholders(very few actually benefit the corporation directly because they don't buy stock directly from the company) a lot of problems would be solved. Or, if companies realized that taking care of the customer and employees first means that everything else will follow.

Re: Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train

#36
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never understood the business case for Starlink. You're either on fiber or 5G.

Take your RV for an extended stay at the National Parks. RV parks are full of Starlinkers and I *love* the service. Roadtrips with kids are so much better too. The residential dish's in-motion performance is phenomenal and it's not even made for that.

Sure, why not stay home if that is the case?

Re: Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train

#37

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I live in a place with no fiber and no 5G. Here’s your business case.

So a high latency connection that is also susceptible to atmospheric effects and run by a madman is okay? I am still on DSL because there is no fiber or 5g internet here yet* . And I live on the edge of an area with 500k people. DSL is good enough for 4k streaming video and anything else I need and costs me $65. Why on earth would I want to make things worse by using starlink? Of course, if I lived 50 miles from a ga…

>So a high latency connection

It's hard to take the rest of your comment seriously when you're starting your comment off with this. Independent reviews says latency is in the 20-30ms range. That's in the same range (if not better) than cellular internet, and even though coax/DSL might lower, you won't really notice unless you're a competitive esports streamer or running a HFT bot out of your basement.

Re: Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train

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I never understood the business case for Starlink. You're either on fiber or 5G.

I live in a place with no fiber and no 5G. Here’s your business case.

Do you have access to 4G?

I have been considering options and it seems like 4G has coverage pretty much all over the USA. If that isn't an option, I would consider hughesnet, it seems like they have a cheaper lowest plan than starlink. What do you think?

Re: Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train

#39
post #6

Given their inherit latency, and cost; the equation for running everything via Wireguard is surly worth it.

I never understood the business case for Starlink. You're either on fiber or 5G.

You don’t even have to get very remote in Australia before the best on offer was dialup over copper before starlink.

… now multiply that by all the remote regions of earth.

Re: Starlink updates privacy policy to allow consumer data to train

#40
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a place with no fiber and no 5G. Here’s your business case.

Do you have access to 4G? I have been considering options and it seems like 4G has coverage pretty much all over the USA. If that isn't an option, I would consider hughesnet, it seems like they have a cheaper lowest plan than starlink. What do you think?

I’m in Europe. Where I live 4g is spotty at best. My two options are Starlink that gives me a 350/50 connection or a legacy provider that has a FWA 30/5 at the same price.

That’s it, those are the two options. Difference in price between those two is 4€

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