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Yawning has an unexpected influence on the fluid inside your brain

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Re: Yawning has an unexpected influence on the fluid inside your brain

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A trait doesn’t have to be advantageous to persist just non-detrimental.

It is detrimental though. It is socially impolite to yawn in public. Edit: why am I being downvoted for this?

I wonder if that has always been the case or if it is a modern thing (modern in the sense of our evolutionary history).

Re: Yawning has an unexpected influence on the fluid inside your brain

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The contagious nature of yawning is so weird. It has to be evolutionarily advantageous because it's so wide spread, but it's also non-obvious.

Yawing seems like it must be adventurous, the contagious part not so much.

Even the mention of a yawn can trigger it.

Perhaps we are almost always in a state of needing a yawn, but the trigger is seldom met, and seeing or hearing about it is enough to make our brain go "oh yeah I forgot about that".

Perhaps yawning is actually underdeveloped and an ideal human would yawn at regular intervals without any prompting.

Re: Yawning has an unexpected influence on the fluid inside your brain

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Is that the right criteria? A trait must be completely, 100% disqualifying as a mate or else it sticks around? Our ancestors used to have tails. We no longer have tails. Plenty of people wear artificial tails today and get laid, it's not a 100% disqualifying trait

Natural selection doesn't require 100% disqualifying, it just needs a slight preference and a shit load of time.

Yes that is more along the lines I was thinking

Re: Yawning has an unexpected influence on the fluid inside your brain

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It is detrimental though. It is socially impolite to yawn in public. Edit: why am I being downvoted for this?

Even if yawning in public affected sexual fitness: how long has it been socially impolite to yawn in public? Evolution takes a rather long time in species with long reproductive cycles. Almost all mammals yawn, it would take significant genetic changes to breed that out of us. That doesn't happen overnight.

400-500 years minimum (15-20 generations), although point taken

Re: Yawning has an unexpected influence on the fluid inside your brain

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The contagious nature of yawning is so weird. It has to be evolutionarily advantageous because it's so wide spread, but it's also non-obvious.

It is strange how well yawning is conserved, even as far back as in reptiles, since it doesn't really seem to do anything.

Re: Yawning has an unexpected influence on the fluid inside your brain

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Just about all our behaviors are contagious. Scratching, deep breath, emotion, looking in a certain direction, sudden alertness. If yawning were different, that would be weird.

Most of those can also be done consciously though. Yawning is different. It is more inline with flatulence, crying, or vomiting. Actions that are in many ways, outside of our direct control.

I can yawn on command. Rumbling my ears and edging swallowing it triggers a yawn 100% of the time

Re: Yawning has an unexpected influence on the fluid inside your brain

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> If an animal is drowsy or bored, it will be less alert than when fully awake and less prepared to spring into action. "Contagious" yawning could be an instinctual signal between group members to stay alert.

> Anecdotal evidence suggests that yawning helps increase a person's alertness.

> Paratroopers have been noted to yawn during the moments before they exit their aircraft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yawn

Re: Yawning has an unexpected influence on the fluid inside your brain

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It's a bit like laughing. Synchronise the mood of the group. I assume other mammals have contagious yawns too?

Cats certainly do. Strangely, dogs sneeze to show deference.

Is yawning contagious between species?

Re: Yawning has an unexpected influence on the fluid inside your brain

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is it so detrimental that it leads to a person never finding a mate and reproducing? Maybe for a totally extreme outlier, but probably not

Is that the right criteria? A trait must be completely, 100% disqualifying as a mate or else it sticks around? Our ancestors used to have tails. We no longer have tails. Plenty of people wear artificial tails today and get laid, it's not a 100% disqualifying trait

>Plenty of people wear artificial tails today and get laid

…Do they? What did I miss?

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