Is this what the 16,000 were working on?
Amazon One palm authentication discontinued
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Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just scan the QR code from the Whole Foods app on my phone. Then tap the button to pay with the credit card linked to the account. For security reasons, it makes sense that if you use your phone number rather than the QR code, of course you don't have the option to utilize the linked card. Meant to register the palm thing but just never got around to it, wasn't even really sure how/where? That was the main blocker…
I think “just” is doing a lot of work here. Steps I remember: 1. Put down everything so you have 2 free hands. 2. Mention that it will take a minute to the cashier. 3. Unlock your phone. 4. Find the Amazon app (this part is odd, you’re at Whole Foods). 5. Dig around in the UI for the store code. They move it around. 6. Present your phone to the cashier to scan.
1. I've already put down the groceries I was carrying, so the cashier can scan them. I have free hands.
2. The cashier is busy scanning, you don't need to mention anything.
3. FaceID unlocks it automatically.
4. What Amazon app? I use the Whole Foods app. I keep it easily accessible, I don't need to find it.
5. The code is always displayed by default when you open the app. You never have to dig around anything.
6. Or scan it yourself under the customer-facing scanner they have for that.
Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued
#33This is sad. I loved paying by palm at Whole Foods because it was definitely the fastest way to do things. You just scanned and you were out. Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime and then tap my watch and select the right credit card (palm scan always used my groceries card). Ah well, perhaps adoption was low.
Like literally scan your palm? There’s no way that’s on device like a fingerprint reader on your iPhone either. You’re okay with just providing biometric data to a large corp like that. Makes me shudder.
You wave your hand over a camera.
At this point I presume they collect such biometrics whether I like it or not; they have cameras everywhere.
Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just scan the QR code from the Whole Foods app on my phone. Then tap the button to pay with the credit card linked to the account. For security reasons, it makes sense that if you use your phone number rather than the QR code, of course you don't have the option to utilize the linked card. Meant to register the palm thing but just never got around to it, wasn't even really sure how/where? That was the main blocker…
I think “just” is doing a lot of work here. Steps I remember: 1. Put down everything so you have 2 free hands. 2. Mention that it will take a minute to the cashier. 3. Unlock your phone. 4. Find the Amazon app (this part is odd, you’re at Whole Foods). 5. Dig around in the UI for the store code. They move it around. 6. Present your phone to the cashier to scan.
The WF store I frequent has lousy cell reception, so add th step “open Settings app and get on store’s wifi” (and who knows what all that lets them track).
Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued
#35This is sad. I loved paying by palm at Whole Foods because it was definitely the fastest way to do things. You just scanned and you were out. Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime and then tap my watch and select the right credit card (palm scan always used my groceries card). Ah well, perhaps adoption was low.
> Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime
Haven't the (big) supermarkets in the US adopted the whole "scan and go" thing that lots of countries in Europe have had for a long time? (maybe more than a decade at this point I think)
When I go to the supermarket, right after the entrance, I pick up a scanner, then as I pick stuff, I scan them and pack them. Then when I'm done, you scan a code, give back the scanner, take your stuff and leave. Kind of assumed this was done in the US first and then spread here, but maybe it started here? Not sure.
Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just scan the QR code from the Whole Foods app on my phone. Then tap the button to pay with the credit card linked to the account. For security reasons, it makes sense that if you use your phone number rather than the QR code, of course you don't have the option to utilize the linked card. Meant to register the palm thing but just never got around to it, wasn't even really sure how/where? That was the main blocker…
It doesn't seem like a big deal, but this is just so much more annoying than using my palm that not only links my payment method but also prime membership. Now I need to tap through a stupid app and scan a code. We always stopped at whole foods on the way home from the gym, and I didn't always have my phone with me or readily accessible. This will definitely cause me to cut back on this quick stop in / impulse purcha…
If you have an iOS phone you can create a shortcut on your home screen that jumps directly to the code in the Amazon app. Whole Foods app may have the Shortcuts integration too, but I use the Amazon app.
The code both applies your Prime membership and links your preferred payment method.
Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Like literally scan your palm? There’s no way that’s on device like a fingerprint reader on your iPhone either. You’re okay with just providing biometric data to a large corp like that. Makes me shudder.
You wave your hand over a camera. At this point I presume they collect such biometrics whether I like it or not; they have cameras everywhere.
A grainy image of your palm from a surveillance camera capture is not going to expose biometric data. Your hand needs to be close enough to make out the detail required. Then tying that to your identity is very hard and takes manhours, not something you can replicate at scale. You’re giving them your palm print/vein scan tied to your identity on a plate. It’s very irresponsible.
Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued
#38This is sad. I loved paying by palm at Whole Foods because it was definitely the fastest way to do things. You just scanned and you were out. Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime and then tap my watch and select the right credit card (palm scan always used my groceries card). Ah well, perhaps adoption was low.
Is it really that hard to take an credit card out your purse or wallet and tap it that you were happy to hand over biometric data to amazon?
Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Like literally scan your palm? There’s no way that’s on device like a fingerprint reader on your iPhone either. You’re okay with just providing biometric data to a large corp like that. Makes me shudder.
You wave your hand over a camera. At this point I presume they collect such biometrics whether I like it or not; they have cameras everywhere.
Isn't it a deep vein scanner? Much harder to spoof than still images or even video.
Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued
#40This is sad. I loved paying by palm at Whole Foods because it was definitely the fastest way to do things. You just scanned and you were out. Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime and then tap my watch and select the right credit card (palm scan always used my groceries card). Ah well, perhaps adoption was low.
> Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime Haven't the (big) supermarkets in the US adopted the whole "scan and go" thing that lots of countries in Europe have had for a long time? (maybe more than a decade at this point I think) When I go to the supermarket, right after the entrance, I pick up a scanner, then as I pick stuff, I scan them and pack them. Then when I'm done, you scan a code, give back t…
Haha no. US commerce improvements tend to trail EU by a decade.
We just got tap to pay a couple of years ago. People still pass bits of paper with signatures on them to pay each other for stuff.