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Ultraprocessed foods make up to 70% of the US food supply (2025)

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Re: Ultraprocessed foods make up to 70% of the US food supply (2025)

#31
It's hard to get much more processed than sugar itself.

Out of everything else, that should be one that's easy to remember.

Pure white crystals often indicate the presence of a chemical in its most concentrated form.

Among other dangers, are the hazard of overdosing more easily, intentionally or not.

Re: Ultraprocessed foods make up to 70% of the US food supply (2025)

#32

Just don't buy those foods. Buy fresh vegetables, tofu, and meat from the edges of the grocery store. Simple. Done.

Tofu is heavily processed, try again.

Tofu is processed, just like butter, cheese, flour, sugar. Even milk is in a similar category if it's been pasteurized and homogenized.

This is markedly different category to ultraprocessed though.

Re: Ultraprocessed foods make up to 70% of the US food supply (2025)

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This isn’t hard at all. Didn’t take me three minutes. It’s even a major brand available at a variety of US supermarkets. It’s not niche or “organic”. https://giantfood.com/product/land-o-lakes-half-half-cream-1...

I don’t buy half and half cream very often. I did not know that for a basic product they were selling items that aren’t just milk and cream. Ignorance on my part? Sure, but there is over a hundred different things I buy. It would be doing a audit everytime I go shopping.

You go shopping thousands of times in your life.

Spend 10 seconds reading a label.

Holy crap people are lazy and entitled. You want your hand held and all the conveniences in the world so you don't have to read a label or buy a vegetable.

Re: Ultraprocessed foods make up to 70% of the US food supply (2025)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Simple in theory, snobby in practice. Making food from scratch is a time luxury. It often benefits from good/expensive kitchen equipment unless you want to spend even more time and labor. Let’s take bread as an example. I can buy it from the store for a dollar or two pre-sliced with preservatives and processing, or I can make it myself, which doesn’t really save any money. The fresh kind from the grocery store bakery…

> The fresh kind from the grocery store bakery with no preservatives costs more and goes bad faster. Lesson #1 when you become an adult, bread goes into the freezer when you get home so that it doesn't go bad.

Whenever food stuff comes up it becomes very apparent that most people are super ignorant about food prep. I get the vibe it's mostly on purpose so folks don't have to prep food and can just order stuff or buy cheap. Idk, but it's very normalized nowadays to know absolutely nothing about cooking/baking. Its a weird status symbol thing, maybe?

I'm not saying folks make a conscious decision to never learn how to cook or food prep. I mean as a society, there are constant excuses given to us. Over time more and more people fall victim to saying no to learning. This reinforces itself, "everytime I try something I fail", so folks never learn. It's sad to see how widespread this mentality is. We trade our skills for convenience then complain when we have no skills and the convenience has worn off.

Re: Ultraprocessed foods make up to 70% of the US food supply (2025)

#35

why does the USA not have the concept of buying home made meals from other people? I have never heard of a lunch box service or people buying one

> why does the USA not have the concept of buying home made meals from other people?

capitalism->companies lobby->corrupt government->zero regulation->shitty food that costs less to make, will kill you and is addictive

Re: Ultraprocessed foods make up to 70% of the US food supply (2025)

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post #33
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t buy half and half cream very often. I did not know that for a basic product they were selling items that aren’t just milk and cream. Ignorance on my part? Sure, but there is over a hundred different things I buy. It would be doing a audit everytime I go shopping.

You go shopping thousands of times in your life. Spend 10 seconds reading a label. Holy crap people are lazy and entitled. You want your hand held and all the conveniences in the world so you don't have to read a label or buy a vegetable.

Yeah, the label says half milk half cream.

Re: Ultraprocessed foods make up to 70% of the US food supply (2025)

#37
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Simple in theory, snobby in practice. Making food from scratch is a time luxury. It often benefits from good/expensive kitchen equipment unless you want to spend even more time and labor. Let’s take bread as an example. I can buy it from the store for a dollar or two pre-sliced with preservatives and processing, or I can make it myself, which doesn’t really save any money. The fresh kind from the grocery store bakery…

An automatic breadmaker costs less than $50 and makes perfect bread every time for 30c of flour and electricity. It takes 5 minutes to set up and you just wake up to fresh bread. That's less time than you'd waste going to the grocery store every day. I take your point about everything else, but bread is the wrong example.

I work two part time low wage hourly jobs, where am I getting $50 for a bread maker?

Plus the Great Value white bread is 99 cents, and the packaging tells me it’s healthy.

Why am I motivated to spend my scarce money on making my own bread?

Re: Ultraprocessed foods make up to 70% of the US food supply (2025)

#38
post #34

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> The fresh kind from the grocery store bakery with no preservatives costs more and goes bad faster. Lesson #1 when you become an adult, bread goes into the freezer when you get home so that it doesn't go bad.

Whenever food stuff comes up it becomes very apparent that most people are super ignorant about food prep. I get the vibe it's mostly on purpose so folks don't have to prep food and can just order stuff or buy cheap. Idk, but it's very normalized nowadays to know absolutely nothing about cooking/baking. Its a weird status symbol thing, maybe? I'm not saying folks make a conscious decision to never learn how to cook o…

This ignorance comes from a barely-regulated advertising industry and an inadequate and highly unequal education system, which is a lot of the point I’m trying to make.

Don’t lose sight of what it’s really like to be poor. Being poor means having very little time, and mostly thinking about survival. Learning to cook from scratch is a real hobby and something of a luxury. This isn’t the pre-industrial era where peasants had ample free time, this is an era where the poorest people have the least amount of time. They and their parents work multiple jobs for long hours with no paid time off.

It’s also a system where healthier food costs more and there’s no good societal way to offset that and make nutrition more equally accessible. (Let’s not forget the federal government recently playing political games with SNAP)

Let’s also talk about food deserts. I am an upper middle class person and I once lived on the border of one of the poorest areas of a rust belt city with declining population.

I once went into a big chain grocery store because it was close by, but it was the B tier store for the poor local population.

I shit you not, they did not carry tortellini. One of the most common pastas you can find in an American supermarket. Not fresh, not frozen, not dry. They didn’t have it. I asked an employee and they said they don’t carry it, it wasn’t out of stock or anything.

This was a full grocery store, which the community was lucky to have instead of just a corner cigarette and energy drink store, and they didn’t have a basic staple pasta.

Re: Ultraprocessed foods make up to 70% of the US food supply (2025)

#39
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Simple in theory, snobby in practice. Making food from scratch is a time luxury. It often benefits from good/expensive kitchen equipment unless you want to spend even more time and labor. Let’s take bread as an example. I can buy it from the store for a dollar or two pre-sliced with preservatives and processing, or I can make it myself, which doesn’t really save any money. The fresh kind from the grocery store bakery…

> The fresh kind from the grocery store bakery with no preservatives costs more and goes bad faster. Lesson #1 when you become an adult, bread goes into the freezer when you get home so that it doesn't go bad.

Okay, so what am I doing about the fact that buying anything in the produce section costs a lot? The dollars per calories basically makes no sense if I’m on an extreme budget.

I can buy a pack of strawberries that will last the family a day or two for $5+ and has a total of 200 calories in the entire package and we go hungry, or I can buy something processed that’s calorie dense.

Or I can buy something calorie dense and cheap like rice and beans that takes a lot of time to prep and make, which I don’t have because I work two part time jobs to pay rent - my main way to stay afloat is working long hours and overtime.

Meanwhile all the media that is presented to me tells me not to buy whole foods but to buy packaged products that are a lot more fun and tasty instead. It’s not like I am out here paying for the ad-free Netflix tier. My school and family never taught me how to cook because my school was a low income public school in a segregated society, and my parents also worked multiple jobs to make ends meet and didn’t spend a lot of time at home as a result.

A lot of 9 to 5 corporate employees really don’t understand what it’s like to be poor.

Re: Ultraprocessed foods make up to 70% of the US food supply (2025)

#40
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An automatic breadmaker costs less than $50 and makes perfect bread every time for 30c of flour and electricity. It takes 5 minutes to set up and you just wake up to fresh bread. That's less time than you'd waste going to the grocery store every day. I take your point about everything else, but bread is the wrong example.

I work two part time low wage hourly jobs, where am I getting $50 for a bread maker? Plus the Great Value white bread is 99 cents, and the packaging tells me it’s healthy. Why am I motivated to spend my scarce money on making my own bread?

> where am I getting $50 for a bread maker

Save up? Buy it from a thrift shop? Whatever it is, it's cheaper than your previous assertion that breadbaking is impossible without a $300 stand mixer.

> Why am I motivated to spend my scarce money on making my own bread?

To save money and eat better.

Again I take your point. Being poor is mentally taxing and is the result of many things having gone wrong in one's past. Often things out of one's control. All I'm saying is bread is the wrong example to illustrate that point. Try literally any other food.

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