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Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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I have seen anti-Signal FUD all over the place since it was discovered that protesters have been coordinating on Signal.

Here’s the facts:

- Protesters have been coordinating using Signal

- Breaches of private Signal groups by journalists and counter protesters were due to poor opsec and vetting

- If the feds have an eye into those groups, it’s likely that they gained access in the same way as well as through informants (which are common)

- Signal is still known to be secure

- In terms of potential compromise, it’s much more likely for feds to use spyware like Pegasus to compromise the endpoint than for them to be able to break Signal. If NSA has a Signal vulnerability they will probably use it very sparingly and on high profile foreign targets.

- The fact that even casual third parties can break into these groups because of opsec issues shows that encryption is not a panacea. People will always make mistakes, so the fact that secure platforms exist is not a threat in itself, and legal backdoors are not needed.

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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And you need to watch the videos but I imagine the cognitive dissonance is too uncomfortable.

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No, the ones on broadcast television news where they go scene by scene breaking down any claims of Alex being at fault being bogus lies that you are now repeating.

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Are you holding up some random unverified substack, featuring an obvious AI-generated photo, as a reliable source of information? > You should probably read the original source before taking the opinion of your favorite pundit. This is not an "original source" of the article in question.

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Great add

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Why? That's unequivocally constitutionally protected speech. Why is our tax money being wasted on this?

Conspiracy to commit a crime is typically not included in protected speech. Whether you think that's happening here will depend mostly on what side you take, I suspect.

Interesting that there would be people on a "side" that think there was a conspiracy to commit a crime. What crime?

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's much of a problem at all. Many of the protesters and observers are not hiding their identities, so finding their phone number isn't a problem. Even with content, coordinating legal activities isn't a problem either.

Government intimidation of the practice of constitutional rights... what ever could go wrong.

I was replying specifically to this:

> This seems like a good example of that being enough metadata to be a big problem

I was not saying it's not a problem that the feds are doing this, because that's not what I was replying to.

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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I don't know signal very well but when I have spoken to others about it they mention that the phone number is the only metadata they will have access to. This seems like a good example of that being enough metadata to be a big problem.

I don't think it's much of a problem at all. Many of the protesters and observers are not hiding their identities, so finding their phone number isn't a problem. Even with content, coordinating legal activities isn't a problem either.

I would never agree with you. protestors behaving legally or practicing civil disobedience can still have their lives ruined by people in power.

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/arizona-supreme-court-s...

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