Anyone using the original iPhone SE or the second SE? I wonder how those are fairing on their final update(s).
iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch
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#32Anyone using the original iPhone SE or the second SE? I wonder how those are fairing on their final update(s).
Replaced the original iPhone SE battery recently with a higher capacity one. Works perfectly. Many apps require an update or else they refuse tor run, but outside of that, still doing well.
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#33Anyone using the original iPhone SE or the second SE? I wonder how those are fairing on their final update(s).
Had an original SE as banking backup. Recently the banking app demanded a newer iOS after being updated. Now that good old little device that was supposed to save me eventually is basically bricked for me.
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#34I'm not a fan of Apple's walled garden mindset and resistance to inter-operating with other platforms, but this degree of legacy support is a case of Apple doing a good thing and deserves praise. Note: I'm not saying that Google/MSFT et al are much better than Apple, but they're not quite as bad.
I know folks that have 18-month-old flagship Android phones, that can’t get the latest Android releases. When they ask me what Android phones to get, I always say a Pixel, because they will at least get the latest OS support in a timely fashion. They are also excellent phones.
> They are also excellent phones.
I'm glad you had a good experience with it, but I had the Pixel 7 Pro and it was the single worst phone I have ever used. Utterly dogshit, to a point where I swore a blood oath to never purchase another Pixel ever again. I've heard that the later Pixels are better but I guess I'll never know.
It's possible that I had a defective unit, but regardless of the reason it was a laggy mess, that got terrible battery life, and sometimes simply wouldn't finish turning on (it would just stay on a black screen indefinitely). I bought it in July of 2023 and I ended up giving it to a family member and buying a refurb iPhone 13 Pro Max, which I still have and it has been considerably better.
It's not like I'm this huge Apple fanboy (feel free to look at my history complaining about my time working there), but if the Pixel 7 was 2023's flagship Android phone, then I have very little interest in using Android anymore.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know folks that have 18-month-old flagship Android phones, that can’t get the latest Android releases. When they ask me what Android phones to get, I always say a Pixel, because they will at least get the latest OS support in a timely fashion. They are also excellent phones.
> They are also excellent phones. I'm glad you had a good experience with it, but I had the Pixel 7 Pro and it was the single worst phone I have ever used. Utterly dogshit, to a point where I swore a blood oath to never purchase another Pixel ever again. I've heard that the later Pixels are better but I guess I'll never know. It's possible that I had a defective unit, but regardless of the reason it was a laggy mess,…
Same here with a Pixel 10 Pro. Having seen issues that others have been struggling with, I’m shocked at the poor quality controls. It’s not only hardware, the software breaks every now and then. Looks like every patch introduces some bugs or bricks some Pixels. According to Gemini, it’s all known and has been discussed for a long time. I checked Pixel bug reports, some of them closed with wont-implement states, while users still struggling.
This was the first time in two decades that my smartphone broke, and it could only be replaced.
In the end, to me it’s really too much maintenance with Pixels and Android devices in general. Really don’t get it why people prefer Android. It’s like desktop Linux. Not there yet.
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#36Anyone using the original iPhone SE or the second SE? I wonder how those are fairing on their final update(s).
Me, my wife and my mom are all using the second SE. My mom is the only one who has updated to the newest iOS. I didn't want to because I heard rumors it was slow. But I tried my mom's phone and it seems as snappy as my phone (more or less, not the fastest phone to begin with, but not slow either). So I'm going to update too.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know folks that have 18-month-old flagship Android phones, that can’t get the latest Android releases. When they ask me what Android phones to get, I always say a Pixel, because they will at least get the latest OS support in a timely fashion. They are also excellent phones.
I had a perfectly functional Galaxy A71 this time last year, still had great battery life, etc. I had to replace it because it only has 5 years of support. Samsung offers 7 years of support but only on their top tier phones. Google offer 7 years, even on their A series phones so I chose a pixel 9a. It's fine, I don't love it or hate it, but it's not doing anything I care about better than my last phone.
After the battery problems that the Pixel 4a, 6a, and 7a have had, I'll stick to the regular Pixel phones (well - who knows far this sideloading clampdown will go).
I know people have had battery problems with non-a Pixel phones, but the number of 'a' phones with battery problems caused Google to publicly respond.
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#38TLDR it replaces an expired certificate, no software is being "updated" here. Wake me when old versions of OS X can access the App Store again.
I cannot remember ever installing something from the App Store onto a Mac. What software do people install that way?
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#39tokyobreakfast is right that this is just a certificate fix, not a real software update. But it's still notable. Lots of old devices become paperweights because of expired certs or backend shutdowns. The fact that Apple even bothered to push this to a 13-year-old device is unusual. Most companies wouldn't.
Maybe overlap with the device tree for the last iPod Touches that finally got sold?
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#40I love it when companies keep their old hardware updated. Instills great confidence. AMD drops support as soon as it possibly can for "old" GPUs.
Thus can never be viable. Instead, the companies should open-source obsolete products allowing community support.