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Booting from a vinyl record (2020)

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Re: Booting from a vinyl record (2020)

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In my country they used to broadcast software for Atari 800 over radio - and it worked...

In the Netherlands they used to broadcast software as part of the Hobbyscoop radio show. It was generic BASIC code that could run on a variety of home computers, requiring a small loader program for conversion. The project was named BASICODE[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASICODE

Re: Booting from a vinyl record (2020)

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As someone that's spent time behind the decks, I wonder what kind of hacking could be done by letting someone like Qbert take the wheel while loading.

Part of the infamous sound of a dial-up connection being established was negotiating the speed of the connection. Now I'm thinking if you'd need a negotiation of 33 1/3, 45, or 78 as an advanced feature.

Re: Booting from a vinyl record (2020)

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post #5

The video from the article, in case you don't want to accept cookies: https://youtu.be/bqz65_YfcJg It doesn't even say which type of cookies have to be accepted, I tried selecting just functional cookies, that didn't work. Funny how it's an arcane bunch of toggles in a cookie popup, on a page describing an arcane way of booting up a system.

Youtube has tonnes of cookies! Why give youtube a free pass but not some independent hobbyist's site?

It doesn't get a free pass from me but it seems to work fine with only first party cookies, ublock origin and built in tracking protection active, and most (but not all) third party content blocked by umatrix.

Alternatively you can use the link in GP to grab the video via yt-dlp. Can even do that via tor if you want. (Weirdly at least historically youtube was friendlier to tor exit nodes than it was to a lot of mainstream VPNs. Not sure what was up with that, haven't tested it in a while.)

Re: Booting from a vinyl record (2020)

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> built-in “cassette interface” of the PC (that was hardly ever used) Wait a minute, what?? How did I not know about this.

Those aren't rare on 16-bit or less, '80s and before, pre-MS-DOS home computers. Looks cool, but apparently it was way too slow and painful to be fondly remembered.

Re: Booting from a vinyl record (2020)

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> built-in “cassette interface” of the PC (that was hardly ever used) Wait a minute, what?? How did I not know about this.

Way, way back when, you were lucky to get a serial port built in to the motherboard. everything was an add-in card. But you did get a tape drive interface. It was just an audio jack you plugged into any cassette player. You had to start and stop the tape yourself, of course.

Re: Booting from a vinyl record (2020)

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post #3

Old scanners were SCSI, which made me wonder if you could use them as boot devices, if you could stuff the scanner driver and OCR software into the BIOS. Might be easier now that we have uEFI.

Even older scanners were raw ISA piped over a centronix cable

Re: Booting from a vinyl record (2020)

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've started doing: yt-dlp https://youtu.be/bqz65_YfcJg -o - | mpv - And never been happier. I hope it still counts as a view for the channel/owner though, but never investigated if that's actually the case.

Very unlikely, you need the browser for that

Good thing yt-dlp is a browser.

Re: Booting from a vinyl record (2020)

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post #22
post #9

In my country they used to broadcast software for Atari 800 over radio - and it worked...

In Poland, in the communist period, the national broadcaster used to do it. For Atari, ZX Spectrum, Commmodore 64. Haven't heard the audition, though. Well before my era.

It’s crazy that you had access to these technologies during communist period.

Growing up in USSR I didn’t know anyone who would own a PC up until early 90s.

Re: Booting from a vinyl record (2020)

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post #23

Today, storage is so advanced that to the ordinary user it simply presents as some kind of non-leaky abstraction: small rectangular shape, no moving parts, stores blocks, retrieves blocks, low latency, high reliability. Back then, the storage is was much more 'real': it was slow, made noises, degraded noticeably because of stray magnetic fields etc, complicated mechanical parts. By the hearing alone, you may spot pro…

And yet was an absolute marvel of engineering. I often used to wonder at the accuracy and reliability they got out of those stepper motors, trying to imagine the size of the tracks.

Fun thought experiment. The 128 GB SD card on my desk could store a 1-bit bitmap of 1,000,000 x 1,000,000 pixels. Imagine shrinking that down to the size of the die, and how small each (logical) cell is.

Re: Booting from a vinyl record (2020)

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post #5

The video from the article, in case you don't want to accept cookies: https://youtu.be/bqz65_YfcJg It doesn't even say which type of cookies have to be accepted, I tried selecting just functional cookies, that didn't work. Funny how it's an arcane bunch of toggles in a cookie popup, on a page describing an arcane way of booting up a system.

I've started doing: yt-dlp https://youtu.be/bqz65_YfcJg -o - | mpv - And never been happier. I hope it still counts as a view for the channel/owner though, but never investigated if that's actually the case.

In most builds mpv has yt-dlp integrated, you can directly pass the URL to it.
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