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Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi

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Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi

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Post by kqr »

ajdude wrote: post #8

Does anyone else use the phrase "I'm going to google XYZ" while referring to actually searching it up on Kagi, DDG, or another search engine?

I used to. Even when I actually used DDG. Now that I use Kagi (and thus am on the second web search service after I stopped using Google) it started to feel silly so I say "search the web" these days.

Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi

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Post by rafterydj »

the_arun wrote: post #28

If google is serving 90% traffic & others are unable to enter - Doesn't that mean google is doing something right for the customer and others are unable to outcompete it? Isn't this how life works?

This is a woefully naive view on the nature of monopolies. You could have made the same argument for Standard Oil.

Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi

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Post by kqr »

yomismoaqui wrote: post #19

One thing I have discovered after using AI chats that include a websearch tool is that I don't want to delve on diferent blogs, Medium posts, Stack overflow threads with passive-aggresive mod comments, dismissing cookie banners... Sorry I just want the info I'm looking for, I don't care for your personal expression or need to monetize your content. There are other times (usually not work related) when I want to explo…

With Kagi you can opt in to an LLM summary of the search result by appending a question mark to the query. It's a neat mechanism when it works!

Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi

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Post by 1-more »

eli wrote: post #20
ajdude wrote: post #8

Does anyone else use the phrase "I'm going to google XYZ" while referring to actually searching it up on Kagi, DDG, or another search engine?

Ironically this is a bad thing for Google from a legal standpoint. If a term becomes "genericized" then it can lose trademark protection. "Aspirin" is a famous example. It used to be a brand name for acetylsalicylic acid medication, but became such a common way to refer to it that in the US any company can now use it.

Apparently the "lost in the Treaty of Versailles" explanation is a bit of a just-so story: https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/55729/why-did-ba...

Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi

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Post by soiltype »

the_arun wrote: post #28

If google is serving 90% traffic & others are unable to enter - Doesn't that mean google is doing something right for the customer and others are unable to outcompete it? Isn't this how life works?

...No. Not at all. Not in the case of Google and generally that's not "how life works". If it was true, why would Google spend so much money to be the default search engine in so many devices/browsers?
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