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Its so bad that these day such posts are flagged in HN and you cannot have any discussion about it. Feels like censorship and HN not doing anything about it to be at least transparent about providing some stats how many times something got flagged and how flagging algorithm works so we at least have some confidence that it's not abused by bots
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Sadly we, the "good guys", created a dangerous precedent in the balkans when Kosovo unilaterally split from Serbia, under foreign (NATO) occupation moreover. International law does not promote nor support unilateral secessions. If a region or autonomous republic wants to secede it should only do so in accordance to the host country laws. E.g. the Quebec and Scotland referendums were made in accordance to the host cou…
It's hardly a precedent, probably half of the countries worldwide have been formed by seceding from some other country against its will. U.S. would be in this half.
The only precedents of unilateral secession were Slovenia and Croatia from Yugoslavia and Bangladesh from Pakistan but none did so under foreign military presence.
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It's hardly a precedent, probably half of the countries worldwide have been formed by seceding from some other country against its will. U.S. would be in this half.
It's the first country to do so under foreign military presence since UN inception. The only precedents of unilateral secession were Slovenia and Croatia from Yugoslavia and Bangladesh from Pakistan but none did so under foreign military presence.
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Countries can be sold?
Not in a meaningful way which Greenlanders would submit to. There would be constant unrest and civil disobedience, nothing would function, and bringing in your own people (including the armed forces) to keep things barely working wouldn't be a solution either.
Escalate to deescalate. Trump doesn’t understand that Greenland is a ~country~ self-gorverning territory in itself in the Kingdom of Denmark. Just like Australia is country in itself in the Commonwealth. England would never be able to sell Australia to the US, just as we in Denmark are not able to sell Greenland. The only way forward is trade war it seems and it would be better to escalate it quickly in order for Tru…
Greenland is not a country, it is a self-governing territory within the Kingdom of Denmark.
Pushing the me-strong logic to the (absurd?) limit, why isn’t California a country? Or New England? Or the red state swath of the US?
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It's the first country to do so under foreign military presence since UN inception. The only precedents of unilateral secession were Slovenia and Croatia from Yugoslavia and Bangladesh from Pakistan but none did so under foreign military presence.
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With the Nordic Council it becomes 22 million people with a GDP of US$ 2.2 trillion, the same GDP as Canada, close to Italy, Russia, and Brazil.
You piss off Denmark and the rest of the Nordic Council members will support it.
On top of all of that you then have the European Union, in which the majority of members will also put support behind one of its members (notwithstanding the likes of Hungary, and perhaps Slovakia with its latest government).
It's really sad to watch this rhetoric unfold from the USA, it starts with the heads but now we see it creeping into comments here on HN. It's bizarre how easily American public opinion is manipulated.
Its so bad that these day such posts are flagged in HN and you cannot have any discussion about it. Feels like censorship and HN not doing anything about it to be at least transparent about providing some stats how many times something got flagged and how flagging algorithm works so we at least have some confidence that it's not abused by bots
we probably need a european HN equivalent
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I don't understand. Are you implying that Greenland can decide to sell itself then?
Greenlanders could vote to be completely independent, yes. That is the situation right now. However, Trump has done everything to turn Greenlanders away, and not done anything to convince them of independence would be good for them, so a vote for independence will likely fail catastrophically right now. Independence is many decades away, as they would really have to build a stronger economy to make it happen, but tha…